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Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan
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Old 05-05-2012, 15:22   #1
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Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

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The government is to consider introducing new filters for online pornography, in a move likely to be fiercely resisted by internet service providers.

Prime minister David Cameron is expected to consult in the next few weeks on whether ISPs, such as BT and Virgin media, should block adult material as a default for customers.
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

Your link is broken, btw.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...lan?intcmp=239

I'm against it. The plans, that is. Not pornography.
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

I think they should have an opt-in (to the block). Why isn't this being offered? It solves the problem, or at least partly solves the problem, for 'concerned parents' and it would be much easier to pass.
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

Personally i think Cameron and the government as a whole should butt out ,treat us like adults and let us decide what we want to watch ,they can get on with getting the country out of the financial crap we are in and stop worrying about trivial matters like these
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

i work for an isp and i don't believe its any one else's business what customers are logged into ,they are quite capable of policing the internet in their own homes .
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

Stage 1 of internet censorship in the UK? The cat is already out of the bag unfortunately, and no ammount of blocking will stop access to it. They're just jumping on yet another bandwagon to divert our attention away from other, far more important issues.
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

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Personally i think Cameron and the government as a whole should butt out ,treat us like adults and let us decide what we want to watch ,they can get on with getting the country out of the financial crap we are in and stop worrying about trivial matters like these
I think they would argue they are trying to protect children, not prevent adults viewing porn. Whether you believe that or that this is the best way to approach it is debatable.

Personally I don’t think governments or ISP’s should be blocking legal content and parents should be responsible for monitoring and controlling their children’s access.
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

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Stage 1 of internet censorship in the UK? The cat is already out of the bag unfortunately, and no ammount of blocking will stop access to it. They're just jumping on yet another bandwagon to divert our attention away from other, far more important issues.
Quite agree it's something that makes them look like they are achieving something ,a bit like Jim Hacker and his Euro sausage

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I think they would argue they are trying to protect children, not prevent adults viewing porn. Whether you believe that or that this is the best way to approach it is debatable.

Personally I don’t think governments or ISP’s should be blocking legal content and parents should be responsible for monitoring and controlling they children’s access.
Exactly ,all they are doing is reinforcing the belief that the government will take care of everything with no need for parents to have responsibility
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

I am confused one minute they talk about there being too much government and the next minute they are doing stuff like this. I am not into porn at all being honet i find it boring as hell but it is something for individual people themselves to draw the line on and should have no government involvement whatsoever. When the kids lived here and i was worried about what they may or may not watch\view i paid £20 for a program to limit the content that could be displayed to them and if i could afford it anyone can. Leave this upto individuals and take the time\resources that would be wasted on this and put them to use on something that will be worth it.
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I am confused one minute they talk about there being too much government and the next minute they are doing stuff like this.
They believe in government small enough to fit into your bedroom.

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I actually think an 'opt-out' is a good idea. A lot of parents won't have the necessarily skills to install the software and ensure it isn't deactivated by their kids so they may welcome the ability to block it at ISP level. It would also be a decent compromise for the people trying to get this block put in place.

The Liberal Democrats should explore this option with the Tories before their inevitable backbone collapse and their backing of the bill.
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

I seem to remember when this idea was first mooted the plan was that new subscribers would be given the choice, porn or no porn and all existing subs who wanted porn filtering had to call and request it. Didn't have a major problem with that aside from the cost to the ISP (read cost to subscribers).
Now it looks like they are leaning towards off for all and call if you want it back. This activated my paranoia gland, why block legal content across the board like that, porn today, what tomorrow?
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I seem to remember when this idea was first mooted the plan was that new subscribers would be given the choice, porn or no porn and all existing subs who wanted porn filtering had to call and request it. Didn't have a major problem with that aside from the cost to the ISP (read cost to subscribers).
Now it looks like they are leaning towards off for all and call if you want it back. This activated my paranoia gland, why block legal content across the board like that, porn today, what tomorrow?
what do they judge as porn though ,will a steamy film downloaded though netflix make it past the censures or will a person have to have porn turned on to get a film like Fatal Attraction
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what do they judge as porn though ,will a steamy film downloaded though netflix make it past the censures or will a person have to have porn turned on to get a film like Fatal Attraction
Agreed! One of the annoyances for art students in secondary education is finding certain art images from recognised artists blocked by the schools software.Annoys the staff who have handed out perfectly respectable course work research.

I personally think that it should be like the pin number we have for VOD.
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Agreed! One of the annoyances for art students in secondary education is finding certain art images from recognised artists blocked by the schools software.Annoys the staff who have handed out perfectly respectable course work research.
yep ,i had to de activate the over 18 filter on my sons VM phone so he could use facebook back when he was 14
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what do they judge as porn though ,will a steamy film downloaded though netflix make it past the censures or will a person have to have porn turned on to get a film like Fatal Attraction

Well that's a very good question and one I suspect they don't even know the answer to yet. If you block at the domain level you will block lots of none pornographic material and you need to keep track of them, if you block keywords you will miss pornographic content and have lots of false positives.
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