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Old 12-03-2012, 12:24   #1
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Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

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Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban
Why not pipe water from north to south?
Water companies across southern and eastern England are to introduce hosepipe bans amid drought conditions.

Seven firms say they will impose water restrictions after two unusually dry winters left reservoirs, aquifers and rivers below normal levels.

Southern Water, South East Water, Thames Water, Anglian Water, Sutton and East Surrey, Veolia Central and Veolia South East are to enforce restrictions.

The drought-affected areas are the south-east of England and East Anglia.
Possibly before the end of March


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17340844
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

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Possibly before the end of March


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17340844
Yes just before l left Fareham yesterday my parents siad there was a chance of this happening but l really did not expect it to come this early.
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

Went for a drive yesterday (Live in the North West) and every reservoir I passed (At least 4) was full to the brim, infact one was over flowing, so if one wonders why North will not be getting a hose pipe ban, this is why.
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

There is three points to make regarding this ban coming out.

1) Why doesn't all the water companies have an arrangement with the Scottish Water companies and arrange for water to be distributed around the country from Scotland, they have plenty of water and get much of it from the mountains.

2) Even if this water ban comes out you are still going to see ' hand washing companies' wasting water by washing cars, near where l live in Hounslow on the A4, cars were queuing up to have there cars washed - what a waste of water that is.

3) The UK is surrounded by water, why can't we use this, I was at a water plant one day in a job l had, and they were pumping in water from the RIVER THAMES to get cleaned and use - why can't we carry on doing that.
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

I remember in '94 when all the tankers were lined up besides the reservoirs along the M62 between lancashire and yorkshire..

I'm fed by Anglian water but I'm more worried about the allotment which is afew miles away though I'm not sure of the water company there.
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

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There is three points to make regarding this ban coming out.

1) Why doesn't all the water companies have an arrangement with the Scottish Water companies and arrange for water to be distributed around the country from Scotland, they have plenty of water and get much of it from the mountains.
I read an article about that last week

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17314545

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The Scottish government has offered to provide water for drought-hit areas in the south of England.
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London's Mayor, Boris Johnson says water could be exported to the south of England via a series of canals.

But Scottish Infrastructure Minister, Alex Neil, has suggested harnessing it to work to build the High Speed Rail system (HS2).
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The Meteorological Office said the wettest place in Scotland was Cluanie Inn near Fort William which recorded 780 mm of rainfall in January and February 2012

By contrast, Colchester in Essex, England's driest county, recorded just 554.9 mm throughout the whole of 2011.
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Boris Johnson's plan is based on a plan first proposed in 1942 by J F Pownall.

He suggested a canal could be built along a natural 'contour' down the spine of England, around the 300ft (100m) level, from the Scottish borders to the south east.

To ensure water pipes laid alongside could carry surplus Scottish water would mean extending the railway to Scotland - something the SNP want, but which the UK coalition government has so far resisted.
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

No ban up here in god's own country.
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No ban up here in god's own country.
Nor down here in god's wonderful country.
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

Another reason to leave the uk, can sell water as well as oil to engerland
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

Stop building in the water poor south before it turns into an arrid desert full of yuppies?

Or maybe some of the immigrants are Terraforming it to what they knew "back home"?
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There is three points to make regarding this ban coming out.

1) Why doesn't all the water companies have an arrangement with the Scottish Water companies and arrange for water to be distributed around the country from Scotland, they have plenty of water and get much of it from the mountains.
Water is a heavy low value product, moving it in bulk even through existing waterways will be very expensive and would add considerably to bills.

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2) Even if this water ban comes out you are still going to see ' hand washing companies' wasting water by washing cars, near where l live in Hounslow on the A4, cars were queuing up to have there cars washed - what a waste of water that is.
It is against the law to have a dirty car, particularly the windscreen. Anyway the owners would probably then wash their car at home which is likely to be more wasteful.

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3) The UK is surrounded by water, why can't we use this, I was at a water plant one day in a job l had, and they were pumping in water from the RIVER THAMES to get cleaned and use - why can't we carry on doing that.
Desalination is very expensive and also energy intensive even with the more efficient reverse osmosis plants. On rivers there is only so much water that can be abstracted without causing ecological problems. I believe it's said that Londoner's water has passed through seven sets of kidneys before it reaches the taps of the capital.

The real problem here in the south is as Taf's mentioned: The chronic overcrowding and house building without regard to available resources and infrastructure be that water, roads, rail or any other of a dozen things one could list.

Metering will have to be compulsory, as it is with electricity or gas, and we'll all have to be less wasteful, recycle grey water where appropriate and fit water butts to collect the rain, when it does fall, for garden / car use.

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We are installing water meters for our customers across the South East between now and 2015. Having a meter means you pay only for the water you use and puts you in control of your bill.

We believe water metering is the fairest way to charge for water, and the overwhelming majority of our customers agree. Since 1990, all new homes have been fitted with a water meter and 40 per cent of our customers are already metered.
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

heero yuy, l do take your point of dirty cars etc, BUT everywhere you look now there is an illegal Car washing scheme going, they don't recycle the stuff it just goes down the drain.
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I read an article about that last week

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17314545
An inept suggestion that truly shows why the SNP might well be competent to handle devolved powers within Scotland but are a truly terrifying prospect once major national infrastructure considerations come into play.

The needs of water and rail are completely different. A high speed train can take an uphill gradient without serious bother; for water it's an engineering challenge solved with expensive pumping infrastructure. The 1940s plan to contour down the spine of England makes that suggestion for good reason: simply, it is the most efficient way to handle a process that would be vastly expensive even to get off the drawing board.

The SNP is trying to show itself as a capable party of national government ready to negotiate on equal terms with its southern neighbours but has simply shown once again a knack for being naive and provincial. Scotland deserves better.
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

No hosepipe ban has ever stopped me from using the water I pay for.
if anything it makes me use more.

I'll tell you who wastes water. firemen washing peoples bloody cars when they're bored on a hot summers day!
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Re: Parts of UK to have hosepipe ban

Our local aquifer fed ponds have been empty since late last year and that's the first time I've ever seen them all empty in well around 25 years. I'm not sure if it's ever happened before but we know quite a lot of people who've lived in this area far longer than us and nobody I've spoken to has known the situation to be this bad at this time of year.

What with the problem of building on flood plains etc. and various infrastructural issues, it does rather highlight the consequences of continuing to concrete over the SE and allowing it's population to mushroom.
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