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Old 23-02-2012, 12:30   #1
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Pay frozen for third year running

www.skynews.com Just announced on Sky, that 1.6 million council workers have there pay frozen for third year in a row.

That will also effect myself, what the hell is going wrong with this government, l blaming them for this terrible clamp down on local authorities on the budgets they apply to paying staff.

In my job l have not had a pay rise in three years and been told that from 2013 l will get 1% rise.

We are now struggling to pay bills, which l am now finding financial problems, what is important to pay and what not to pay, you go to car parks, these have all increased, everything has gone up.

This government has no idea on what is happening to the voter, they are forcing to work FREE for there benefit, with some companies pulling out of this arrangement as it is causing tensions.

Electric, water, petrol, coal all important materials that we all use and have to pay for, but pay is frozen - how the hell does the voter survive.
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Old 23-02-2012, 13:01   #2
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

Personally no payrise is better than no job.

Unfortuneately back in 2009 I got not payrise then redundancy.
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

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Personally no payrise is better than no job.

Unfortuneately back in 2009 I got not payrise then redundancy.
Some years ago my pay was frozen for 4 years then I was made
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

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www.skynews.com Just announced on Sky, that 1.6 million council workers have there pay frozen for third year in a row.

That will also effect myself, what the hell is going wrong with this government, l blaming them for this terrible clamp down on local authorities on the budgets they apply to paying staff.

In my job l have not had a pay rise in three years and been told that from 2013 l will get 1% rise.

We are now struggling to pay bills, which l am now finding financial problems, what is important to pay and what not to pay, you go to car parks, these have all increased, everything has gone up.

This government has no idea on what is happening to the voter, they are forcing to work FREE for there benefit, with some companies pulling out of this arrangement as it is causing tensions.

Electric, water, petrol, coal all important materials that we all use and have to pay for, but pay is frozen - how the hell does the voter survive.
I work in private sector and had a drop in pay and no rise for 2 years, get over it.
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Personally no payrise is better than no job.
Mmm, not had one for 4 years now and it's starting to bite, it's like taking a 20% cut on when I started if you take the cost of living into account, can see a time soon when it actually costs me money to go to work by toping up my wages through savings. Still we're all in this together
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

A council worker next door has had his hours cut to under 20, so Working Tax Credits will be withdrawn from April... a large lump of his income stripped on top of the pay freeze.

Overtime is also plain time from April, but there has been an overtime ban for some time already, except to senior staff of course.

He's been looking for another job, but there are none about in his skill set.

A Polish company has been winning contracts that council workers used to do, then bringing over Poles to do the work!
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Old 23-02-2012, 13:26   #7
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

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A council worker next door has had his hours cut to under 20, so Working Tax Credits will be withdrawn from April... a large lump of his income stripped on top of the pay freeze.

Overtime is also plain time from April, but there has been an overtime ban for some time already, except to senior staff of course.

He's been looking for another job, but there are none about in his skill set.

A Polish company has been winning contracts that council workers used to do, then bringing over Poles to do the work!
Now that is tough we are always told the local government unions are strong i wonder if that is the case where he works? For all their faults they are or can be a good go between.

If he is working under 20 hours a week its hardly worth getting up for IMO depending on his pay level which does not sound that high as he got tax credits.
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Old 23-02-2012, 13:50   #8
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

His workplace had 8 people doing the job, it's now just him and a "roving supervisor" who trolls about the locations in taxis to check that the work is being done.

He recently had to sign a new contract with the simple choice of "sign or leave". The union suggested strongly that he "sign and stay".

His supervisor is on a payscale over £40k.... so at least the "bosses" are raking it in.
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Old 23-02-2012, 14:02   #9
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

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His workplace had 8 people doing the job, it's now just him and a "roving supervisor" who trolls about the locations in taxis to check that the work is being done.

He recently had to sign a new contract with the simple choice of "sign or leave". The union suggested strongly that he "sign and stay".

His supervisor is on a payscale over £40k.... so at least the "bosses" are raking it in.
His union sound as though they are not doing a very good job.!

I agree with your point though as these days the bosses do tend to rake it in at the same time as lower level employees lose out big time,any connection though is purely coincidental.
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A council worker next door has had his hours cut to under 20, so Working Tax Credits will be withdrawn from April... a large lump of his income stripped on top of the pay freeze.

Overtime is also plain time from April, but there has been an overtime ban for some time already, except to senior staff of course.

He's been looking for another job, but there are none about in his skill set.

A Polish company has been winning contracts that council workers used to do, then bringing over Poles to do the work!
Strange, it's the other way around at our place - managers can't claim overtime, only non-managerial staff.

And on the topic, I've not had a pay rise since 2008.

On your second post, how can one person do the job of eight?
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On your second post, how can one person do the job of eight?
Work harder and faster I suppose. He did say that there used to be lots of tea breaks with the extra staff. Now there are none.

It could be the others were all employed to massage the employment figures.

At another location, a cleaning team of 12 council workers has been replaced by a team of 4 Poles on private contract.
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

What is a pay rise Can't remember when I was last given one of them, a bonus or whatever. I'm private sector and ultimately my salary relates to the fee income I can generate and in the climate of the last few years with increasing competition there is always someone who is undercuting you. When one considers the effects that everything else is going up, including the taxes being charged by local government, I've been getting worse off.

So OK it's not right for me to be saying just because I haven't got a pay rise, then nobody else should have one either but, if private sector incomes aren't rising then how can we afford any increased costs that would allow public sector workers to be more comfortable?

Oh and as for overtime, ever since I started my "career", I've never received a penny and yet staying late in the office has always been a regular occurance, as has sitting at home of an evening or weekend writing reports.
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

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I work in private sector and had a drop in pay and no rise for 2 years, get over it.
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www.skynews.com Just announced on Sky, that 1.6 million council workers have there pay frozen for third year in a row.

That will also effect myself, what the hell is going wrong with this government, l blaming them for this terrible clamp down on local authorities on the budgets they apply to paying staff.

In my job l have not had a pay rise in three years and been told that from 2013 l will get 1% rise.

We are now struggling to pay bills, which l am now finding financial problems, what is important to pay and what not to pay, you go to car parks, these have all increased, everything has gone up.

This government has no idea on what is happening to the voter, they are forcing to work FREE for there benefit, with some companies pulling out of this arrangement as it is causing tensions.

Electric, water, petrol, coal all important materials that we all use and have to pay for, but pay is frozen - how the hell does the voter survive.
Question one Arthur. Who said YOU are entitled to get a automatic pay rise each year,

Question Two Arthur. Care to tell me why you think you should be any different than the millions of non public sector workers who don't get a pay rise ?????

Question Three Arthur. Look at everyone else and then tell us why YOU should be any different to those of US who are not getting a pay rise

I dont think you will have the good grace to answer but hey you never know
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

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www.skynews.com Just announced on Sky, that 1.6 million council workers have there pay frozen for third year in a row.

That will also effect myself, what the hell is going wrong with this government, l blaming them for this terrible clamp down on local authorities on the budgets they apply to paying staff.
So the first year of pay freeze was under the previous incumbent then?

Not just the public sector either
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www.skynews.com Just announced on Sky, that 1.6 million council workers have there pay frozen for third year in a row.

That will also effect myself, what the hell is going wrong with this government, l blaming them for this terrible clamp down on local authorities on the budgets they apply to paying staff.

In my job l have not had a pay rise in three years and been told that from 2013 l will get 1% rise.

We are now struggling to pay bills, which l am now finding financial problems, what is important to pay and what not to pay, you go to car parks, these have all increased, everything has gone up.

This government has no idea on what is happening to the voter, they are forcing to work FREE for there benefit, with some companies pulling out of this arrangement as it is causing tensions.

Electric, water, petrol, coal all important materials that we all use and have to pay for, but pay is frozen - how the hell does the voter survive.
If you have only had a pay freeze then think yourself lucky Arthur .I've had year on year pay cuts ,couple that with constant price rises which effectively make the pay cut bigger i wholeheartedly wish that all i had to worry about was a pay freeze .....pay freeze ,i bloody wish
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