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Old 05-02-2010, 11:11   #1
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DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

According to the Beeb

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8499590.stm

David Chaytor, Elliot Morley, Jim Devine & Lord Hanningfield.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:13   #2
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

Woop.

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3 Labour MPs:

Jim Devine, MP for for Livingston

David Chaytor, MP for Bury North

Elliot Morley, MP for Glanford and Scunthorpe

1 Tory Peer:

Lord Hanningfield
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

I've changed the link in the OP to the BBC's text version of the story rather than the live video news feed.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:36   #4
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

Excellent news.
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

They only looked back at the last 4 years of expenses though.

If you or I committed fraud five years ago would we get such leniency?
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

Just heard its magistrate's court so its unlikely they will go to prison (max setence is 6 months in magistrate's court), but I think that was a bit of a pipe dream anyway.
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

If they are found guilty can the court not refer it to a higher court for sentencing?
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

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If they are found guilty can the court not refer it to a higher court for sentencing?
The offence is triable 'either way', and there's obviously going to be a trial, they're not going to quietly plead guilty that's for sure.

Either way means that the magistrates can choose to send the trial to the Crown Court. Even if the magistrates prefer to try it themselves, the defendants can choose to go to the Crown Court. And even if the trial does proceed before magistrates, in the event of a guilty verdict the magistrates can decide, if they think the fitting sentence is beyond their powers, to send it to the Crown Court for sentencing.
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

did any body read the main report published yesterday

http://www1.sky.com/news/expenses.pdf

it' horrendous
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

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Woop.

---------- Post added at 11:13 ---------- Previous post was at 11:12 ----------

3 Labour MPs:

Jim Devine, MP for for Livingston

David Chaytor, MP for Bury North

Elliot Morley, MP for Glanford and Scunthorpe

1 Tory Peer:

Lord Hanningfield
Not a truly representative sample of our parliamentarians but, nonetheless, for some this will give credence to the notion that New Labour has rather more in common with those despicable, greedy, self serving, Tory toffs than it likes to admit...
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Not a truly representative sample of our parliamentarians but, nonetheless, for some this will give credence to the notion that New Labour has rather more in common with those despicable, greedy, self serving, Tory toffs than it likes to admit...
There are of course more Labour MP's Not a third more though. Certainly diminishes any chance they have of claiming they are less corrupt.
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

Of course the other person named but not charged is also a New Labour Peer (by complete co-incidence of course)...

It all set me wondering whatever happened about yet another New Labour Peer's housing allowances and a quick search revealed this:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6991021.ece

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THE Labour peer Baroness Uddin may face a fresh fraud inquiry following the discovery of a second “home” address which she used to claim £91,000 expenses. Uddin claimed the home of her brother and his family in the Essex resort of Frinton-on-Sea was her main residence.
I'm so glad those days of 'Tory sleaze' are over.....
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I'm so glad those days of 'Tory sleaze' are over.....
You mean the days when a £1million+ donation was made to ensure a certain law was passed or someone making a £1million donation, when they happen to be looking for an exemption to a proposed law that would affect their business. That's before you count donations less than £1million, 'Cash for Honours' and Union donations.
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Re: DPP charges politicians on expenses fraud

I am more concerned about MPs having private business interests. How many politicians were discovered to be given advise to businesses or sitting on their boards. Taking money from the taxpayer is one thing, means they are greedy. Taking money from businesses means they have vested interests which may not be those of the electorate.
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