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Old 22-04-2015, 16:02   #1
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Virgin Media Box Removal

Hi,

This is my first post here.
I'm looking for a bit of assistance with regards to (what I believe is) a Virgin Media Fibre Street Box.

There was previously a lane / public walkway separating my neighbour and I.
Due to a lot of problems with Youths gathering there at night and causing trouble, an application was made to the council to have the walkway closed.
The application was granted and the walkway has been closed since 2008.

Problem is that there were a few pieces of equipment on this walkway including Street lamps and a green box.
The street lamps have been removed by my neighbour (as they fell on their share of the land) where as the green box fell on mine.
Normally I wouldn't bother but the box is literally in the middle of what is now my back garden. The door is practically falling off. The image below is what's in side.
I have had BT and the Council Street Lamp Maintenance folk and they have both said it's nothing to do with them and they don't know what it is.

Can either of you identify:

1. What this thing is?
2. If its a Virgin Box, where I stand in regards to getting it removed off of my property?



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Old 22-04-2015, 17:08   #2
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

This is a Virgin Media amplifier. What areas a this in?
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Old 22-04-2015, 17:23   #3
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

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This is a Virgin Media amplifier. What areas a this in?
Finally someone knows what it is Thanks vm_Tech.
The box is located in Blantyre, Scotland (G72 postcode).
Its smack bang in the middle of my back garden so I cant even hide it in the corner or with a fence or anything.

Don't suppose you know the process to have it removed?
I've read a few threads that say it costs a lot of money to have these boxes moved but the ones they are talking about to be full Broadband boxes with lots of Phones / Internet lines rather than just this one amplifier lus it tends to be on the street outside people's property rather than in their garden.

Thanks again for your help.
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Old 22-04-2015, 17:29   #4
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

It's hard to say, it won't be anywhere near as expensive as moving a mux/node cabinet. In theory I would imagine it would be your responsibility to cover costs as when originally installed it would have been in a decent location. But seeing as it's in your back garden and that will make any maintenance or outages very difficult to handle, so vm may want to move it. I'm sure there are some planners on here who may be able to offer better advice as to where to go with it.
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Old 22-04-2015, 17:41   #5
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

There is a Diversionary Works team http://help.virginmedia.com/system/v...3-64EBB9FE46B7

Although that article is aimed as companies rather than private individuals, they may be able to help.
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Old 22-04-2015, 21:56   #6
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

It would probably be cheaper for virgin to install the amplifier underground in your property than move it. Obviously you would need to allow access
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Old 23-04-2015, 11:05   #7
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

Many Thanks for the replies guys.
I'll contact the Diversionary team that BenMcr mentioned.
Don't suppose any of you know how much (even roughly) this would cost?
Like a few hundred or a few thousand?

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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

You will be looking at around the £10,000 thousand pound mark, because of all the planning and the man hours involved to remove the Box from your back garden and move it out onto the public walkway. Plus the impact this will have on paying customers
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

Dig a hole under it and bury it. Job done and a heck of a lot cheaper than getting it moved.
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

Was the land yours when there was a lane there?

If not, when the lane was closed, did you sign a deed to say that the land now belongs to you?

If not, then legally the land still legally belongs to the council. Not you.

Any diversion will be at your cost.
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

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You will be looking at around the £10,000 thousand pound mark, because of all the planning and the man hours involved to remove the Box from your back garden and move it out onto the public walkway. Plus the impact this will have on paying customers
That's totally ludicrous.

I've seen quotes recently of less than £10000 to install completely new fibre optic across an entire mile of a city, including digging up roads, and BT's FTTPoD costs are half of that - around £5000 per mile. The estimated cost of Openreach running completely new cables (including road digging and laying new ducts) all the way from the exchange to an FTTC cabinet is barely £15,000.

VM would probably have to dig, at most, 50 metres. And frankly, they could get away with digging two metres. Bury the cable and move the amps up to the next junction box.
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

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Bury the cable and move the amps up to the next junction box.
Given that the box contains an amp and nothing else, I'd guess it needs to be there due to cable length, and moving it to the next box wouldn't be possible.
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Re: Virgin Media Box Removal

As said previously. This amp can be in a pit underground in the garden and would cost a fraction of any other solution
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Old 29-04-2015, 12:33   #14
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Given that the box contains an amp and nothing else, I'd guess it needs to be there due to cable length, and moving it to the next box wouldn't be possible.
Well that'd depend on a number of specific characteristics of that section of the network. Judging by the differing cable thicknesses it's possible there's enough leeway to use lower loss cables and a slightly higher amp output, given the next available location is probably the other side of the same house.

Then again it's even possible the amp is currently further down than it needs to be and was only put there out of convenience. Only networks would know.

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As said previously. This amp can be in a pit underground in the garden and would cost a fraction of any other solution
Well that was my first thought, but then it'd still be on his property, *and* they'd have to dig up his garden (or leave an exposed manhole cover) in case they need to service it.
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Well that was my first thought, but then it'd still be on his property, *and* they'd have to dig up his garden (or leave an exposed manhole cover) in case they need to service it.
That's what easement/wayleave payments are for.

If they do decide to bury it, make sure you negotiate a decent easement. Of the two options, I'd go for a manhole cover.
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