TiVo - Page 11

1981suede · 01-12-2010, 16:51

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Originally Posted by pauldavies83

Cross fingers on VIP/existing customer deals then

MediaBoy's rumoured pricing sounded good (although maybe a touch unrealistic)

Mediaboy's new customer pricing was spot on, here's hoping his existing customer pricing is just as accurate

clinteastman · 01-12-2010, 16:53

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Originally Posted by ooogemaflop

hahahaha you gotta love the

"we're releasing it with two tuners, however there will be three in the new year. Does this mean a new box or does it already have three and we'll just be doing a software update to enable it? - this will be a software update"

This means the software is not ready yet. It is not fully working and imo will be released with beta software

I'm guessing that there will be such a small amount of installes before the update roll out in the new year (and is probably why its a soft roll out in the first place) that it will not make too much difference.

01-12-2010, 17:01

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Originally Posted by ooogemaflop

hahahaha you gotta love the

"we're releasing it with two tuners, however there will be three in the new year. Does this mean a new box or does it already have three and we'll just be doing a software update to enable it? - this will be a software update"

This means the software is not ready yet. It is not fully working and imo will be released with beta software

A bit like the new Sky boxes you mean. Hopefully as this is tivo software it is tried and tested and unlike the afore mentioned boxes will work. Like somebody pointed out the existing tivo boxes only have two tuners and this could be why. It's very rare for software to be rolled out without bugs anyway and features are often added after roll out.

hammered · 01-12-2010, 17:05

My honest opinion to the TIVO box... Sure it looks nice, but is the GUI as quick as what it shows in the blurb (we'l have to wait and see for that). Companys are well known for showing false GUI's speeding them up or shortening sequences...
As to the pricing... sheesh! You guys that are already to jump straight in there must have far too much money on their hands. What are you getting for that £200? Not a lot from what it looks like to me apart from another TV box, to which you already have most of the tech now.

The web aspect... not worth it IMHO, why would you want to go trawling around You tube, eBay and others from your TV, when normally you do this on your laptops, whilst watching your TV!

The on demand, well if its like what is already there, then the majority of people won't use most of it anyway, just like they already don't. On demand is full of old stuff which most people never watch. It's only the TV stations own on demand stuff which gets used the most.

TIVO was launched a long, long time ago in technology standards and it died it's death very quickly over here, why? Because it was way too expensive. The usual thing of the US trying to make us pay through the nose for goods (a la that well known fruit make of tech gear)!

I'm already paying £100/month to VM, I'm certainly not going to pay even more for stuff you can't even use or for stuff you already get via the BB service. I'm not into this 3D stuff it's still in it's infancy, so unless you go out and spend another grand or so on a new TV it's usless having that tech. I know this is what happened with HD, but HD tech came thick and fast, it won't be the same with 3D and who wants to sit there having to watch TV with glasses on all the time.

It's all very pomp and pomposity to me. Sure I want to get rid of my terrible AS box, who doesn't! But I'm not going to part with another £200 just to get another box which I won't use most of the features on it...
It seems to be a lot of stuff you can't or won't use for an awful lot of extra money...

Just my opinion on it, so wheres the flamers??? lol

vanman · 01-12-2010, 17:21

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The web aspect... not worth it IMHO, why would you want to go trawling around You tube, eBay and others from your TV, when normally you do this on your laptops, whilst watching your TV!

well the way i see it some people only have the internet to see there emails.
facebook and stuff so if they get the tivo they dont have to pay out for an internet connection

01-12-2010, 17:24

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Originally Posted by hammered

...snip

I'm already paying £100/month to VM, I'm certainly not going to pay even more for stuff you can't even use or for stuff you already get via the BB service. I'm not into this 3D stuff it's still in it's infancy, so unless you go out and spend another grand or so on a new TV it's usless having that tech. I know this is what happened with HD, but HD tech came thick and fast, it won't be the same with 3D and who wants to sit there having to watch TV with glasses on all the time.

It's all very pomp and pomposity to me. Sure I want to get rid of my terrible AS box, who doesn't! But I'm not going to part with another £200 just to get another box which I won't use most of the features on it...
It seems to be a lot of stuff you can't or won't use for an awful lot of extra money...

Just my opinion on it, so wheres the flamers??? lol

Your opinion is as valid as anybodies but as for price I wonder how people manage to pay £100 every month for tv/broadband etc. Everybody has a different concept of value for money. If you are paying that much though you might find it is a lot less than £200 anyway as final discounts haven't been announced.

Peter_ · 01-12-2010, 17:33

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Originally Posted by ahardie

Your opinion is as valid as anybodies but as for price I wonder how people manage to pay £100 every month for tv/broadband etc. Everybody has a different concept of value for money. If you are paying that much though you might find it is a lot less than £200 anyway as final discounts haven't been announced.

The will be no discounted prices for a while as per 50Mb so do not think for one second that upon release anyone will get this box at a discount price, you want one then you pay £200 plus £40 activation and that price will be at that level for a good while.

vanman · 01-12-2010, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Masque

The will be no discounted prices for a while as per 50Mb so do not think for one second that upon release anyone will get this box at a discount price, you want one then you pay £200 plus £40 activation and that price will be at that level for a good while.

apart from

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are there going to be any deals for vip customers? - we're working on that - we'll release details in the coming weeks

clinteastman · 01-12-2010, 17:36

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Originally Posted by vanman

apart from

Where is that quote from, as in source?

01-12-2010, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Masque

The will be no discounted prices for a while as per 50Mb so do not think for one second that upon release anyone will get this box at a discount price, you want one then you pay £200 plus £40 activation and that price will be at that level for a good while.

Ah this is news to me I thought we were hearing that price was dependent on which package you subscribe to. That was said just today from the VM sofa I think (whatever that is).

Doz007 · 01-12-2010, 17:36

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Originally Posted by ahardie

Your opinion is as valid as anybodies but as for price I wonder how people manage to pay £100 every month for tv/broadband etc. Everybody has a different concept of value for money. If you are paying that much though you might find it is a lot less than £200 anyway as final discounts haven't been announced.

I hope your view about discounts turns out to be correct because I agree with hammered in that after already paying £100 per month already, another £200 for the TiVo box becomes a very hard sell. Now if media boys predictions turn out to be spot on I will be welcoming TiVo into my home with open arms!

passingbat · 01-12-2010, 17:38

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Originally Posted by hammered

What are you getting for that £200? Not a lot from what it looks like to me apart from another TV box, to which you already have most of the tech now.

ITB hard drive, ITB hard drive, ITB hard drive....

Because of all these new HD channels recording space is a big limitation of the SA box to me.

OK, that's expensive for a 1T hard disc, but how else are you going to get it?

Spotify is rumoured to be coming to the TIVO, which I'd love (it'd save on my Napster cost) and more things like that.

Some of the new functions like search and suggested programmes aren't exactly necessary; neither is my single Harmony remote over 10 single remotes, but it's great to have these things and you'd never go back once you've had the convienience of them!

Doz007 · 01-12-2010, 17:39

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Originally Posted by ahardie

Ah this is news to me I thought we were hearing that price was dependent on which package you subscribe to. That was said just today from the VM sofa I think (whatever that is).

Yeah, thats exactly what I read earlier. It was mentioned in the 'coming soon' thread iirc.

vanman · 01-12-2010, 17:42

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Originally Posted by clinteastman

Where is that quote from, as in source?

from the sofa http://www.alex-brown.co.uk/2010_09_01_archive.html
i went to london to see it

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Originally Posted by vanman

Update from the sofa

some addition faqs below, in case anyone was wondering: are there going to be any deals for vip customers? - we're working on that - we'll release details in the coming weeks
we're releasing it with two tuners, however there will be three in the new year. Does this mean a new box or does it already have three and we'll just be doing a software update to enable it? - this will be a software update
will we be making any changes to our v+ and v hd software? - we won't be stopping development on the existing boxes - both products will coexist for the time being,
when will tivo be demoed in our retail shops so people can see it in action? - initially it will be demoed in the oxford st and westfield stores only across jan/feb 2011, all other retail stores will be enabled with the roll-out plan still being worked through for when these will start.
any news on prices for those of us who already subscribe? - there is additional pricing, including discounts for various groups of existing customers which will be revealed in the coming weeks
when tivo first launches with two tuners will be able to record two programmes at once, or only be able to record one and watch one other at the same time? - it will be able to record two, but you will have to 'watch' one of them, until the third tuner is activated, which will be early 2011

clinteastman · 01-12-2010, 17:45

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Originally Posted by vanman

from the sofa http://www.alex-brown.co.uk/2010_09_01_archive.html
i went to london to see it

Thanks.