Home News Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > Virgin Media Services > Virgin Media TV Service

ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-11-2017, 10:18   #61
Mr K
Woke and proud !
 
Mr K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 9,106
Mr K has a nice shiny star
Mr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny star
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

More on this in the Torygraph:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...edia-80m-bill/
Quote:
ITV is threatening a blackout of its flagship channel in millions of homes unless cable operator Virgin Media hands over up to £80m a year, in a pivotal confrontation over dividing the spoils of the British television industry.

The pair have been locked in tense discussions since ITV issued Virgin Media with the demand over the summer. The broadcaster threatened to shut down the feed of its main channel to 3.8 million cable television homes last month.
I'm with VM no way should they be paying for Freeview channels. But they shouldn't be charging customers for the Player package, which is basically freeview.
Mr K is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 05-11-2017, 10:20   #62
denphone
Still alive and fighting
 
denphone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,296
denphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden aura
denphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden auradenphone has a golden aura
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

My belief is ITV are sabre rattling Mr K.
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
denphone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 10:43   #63
Inactive Digital
cf.addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Services: VM broadband, Stream, phone. Sky Q
Posts: 425
Inactive Digital is a splendid one to beholdInactive Digital is a splendid one to beholdInactive Digital is a splendid one to beholdInactive Digital is a splendid one to beholdInactive Digital is a splendid one to beholdInactive Digital is a splendid one to beholdInactive Digital is a splendid one to beholdInactive Digital is a splendid one to beholdInactive Digital is a splendid one to behold
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

If the figures in the article are correct, it averages out at £1.75 per customer, per month. It's pretty hard to imagine the cost being fully absorbed by Virgin if implemented. However, earlier in the year the Telegraph suggested ITV was also tying in carriage renewal for its other channels into a the negotiations - so the figures may not just be for the main PSB channel and it's +1 and HD variants.
Inactive Digital is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 10:44   #64
jb66
cf.mega poster
 
jb66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,386
jb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze array
jb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze arrayjb66 has a bronze array
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
More on this in the Torygraph:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...edia-80m-bill/

I'm with VM no way should they be paying for Freeview channels. But they shouldn't be charging customers for the Player package, which is basically freeview.
Obviously you have to pay for the player package, you have a v6 to rent
jb66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 14:02   #65
vincerooney
cf.mega poster
 
vincerooney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Services: XL TV XL Phone XL 100MB broadband TiVo Cat
Posts: 2,265
vincerooney has reached the bronze age
vincerooney has reached the bronze agevincerooney has reached the bronze agevincerooney has reached the bronze agevincerooney has reached the bronze agevincerooney has reached the bronze agevincerooney has reached the bronze agevincerooney has reached the bronze age
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Have they done the same for sky and if not why? If sky are getting away with it couldnt VM do the same as sky?
vincerooney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 14:26   #66
Carth
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: At the Leaving door
Posts: 4,050
Carth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze array
Carth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze array
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
. . the Player package, which is basically freeview.
Cheers for that, I had no idea what it is I'm paying for

you notice I said paying for and not watching, because there's nothing on there that would interest me . . . well actually there may well be a couple of programs, but as the wife watches all the inane crap it spouts out there really isn't any 'free' time to watch anything I'd consider entertaining.

At 63 years of age I've seen the best of TV viewing come and go, to be replaced by the politically correct and sanitized drivel that keeps the unimaginative masses hooked on whether Tommy will kiss Gloria in tonights episode, or which of the (unknown) celebrities will win that massive £2500 for a charity of their choice.

Keep all that stuff, I'm happy fragging people in online gaming
Carth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 14:52   #67
Raider999
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,641
Raider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation era
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

I don't think ITV should be allowed to charge for their main channel - it is free on terrestrial tv after all.

Additionally, this will set a big precedent.

If they insist, Virgin should set ITV up as a standalone channel (way down the EPG listings) and demand ITV set up the method and expense of charging for it themselves.

This way they will realise people aren't going to pay for a channel full of adverts and dross programming.

Whatever next, BBC trying to charge for their main channels?

We should all make our feelings known to Virgin that we are not prepared to be charged extra for it.
Raider999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 21:01   #68
RichardCoulter
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,997
RichardCoulter has disabled reputation
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney View Post
Have they done the same for sky and if not why? If sky are getting away with it couldnt VM do the same as sky?
This new law only applies to cable delivered TV and won't affect Sky until they start their IPTV service.

The Government initially said that they didn't expect this to affect traditional cable companies, but now that ITV is trying it on, they say that it's for the market to decide.
RichardCoulter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 23:44   #69
jj20x
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney View Post
Have they done the same for sky and if not why? If sky are getting away with it couldnt VM do the same as sky?
Simple answer, Sky don't transmit ITV on satellite, ITV does via their own contractors. They simply pay Sky to be on the Sky EPG. Should ITV impose a retransmission fee for carriage on satellite, they would have to charge themselves.

---------- Post added at 22:42 ---------- Previous post was at 22:34 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
More on this in the Torygraph:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...edia-80m-bill/

I'm with VM no way should they be paying for Freeview channels. But they shouldn't be charging customers for the Player package, which is basically freeview.
Indeed. As ITV have now put forward a figure of 80m, VM should now make it clear that they want ITV to pay for carriage. A sum of £120m sounds reasonable.

---------- Post added at 22:44 ---------- Previous post was at 22:42 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
This new law only applies to cable delivered TV and won't affect Sky until they start their IPTV service.

The Government initially said that they didn't expect this to affect traditional cable companies, but now that ITV is trying it on, they say that it's for the market to decide.
Not like this government to get itself into a situation with no clear plan of how things will work out. Oh wait...
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2017, 11:39   #70
Raider999
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,641
Raider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation eraRaider999 has entered a golden reputation era
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Why not blame it on Brexit?

Everything else that goes wrong is blamed on it after all
Raider999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2017, 12:42   #71
Mr K
Woke and proud !
 
Mr K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 9,106
Mr K has a nice shiny star
Mr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny star
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 View Post
Why not blame it on Brexit?

Everything else that goes wrong is blamed on it after all
Now you're just being silly
(however it is to blame for a lot of what's going tits up atm !)

There is an interesting bit in the Telegraph article about VMs contingency if ITV did blackout. Just getting the channel from Sky's unscrambled feed ! (Even if it's just the main ITV channel).

---------- Post added at 11:42 ---------- Previous post was at 11:20 ----------

The only thing ITV have of any worth (imo) is next year's World Cup, shared with the BBC. They could use this as a bargaining chip, but most of us still have aerials anyway...
Mr K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2017, 13:20   #72
Mad Max
cf.mega poster
 
Mad Max's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,096
Mad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze array
Mad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze arrayMad Max has a bronze array
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Quote:
They could use this as a bargaining chip, but most of us still have aerials anyway...
Do we? I don't...........
Mad Max is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2017, 13:31   #73
Mr K
Woke and proud !
 
Mr K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 9,106
Mr K has a nice shiny star
Mr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny starMr K has a nice shiny star
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
Do we? I don't...........
Its surprising the amount of channels you can pick up with an indoor aerial and I'm not in a particularly strong signal area.
Mr K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2017, 14:54   #74
Paul
Dr Pepper Addict
Cable Forum Team
 
Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Nottingham
Age: 61
Services: Flextel SIP : Sky Mobile : Sky Q TV : VM BB (1000 Mbps) : Aquiss FTTP (330 Mbps)
Posts: 27,612
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
Do we? I don't...........
I do, but not one that was designed for digital reception, and I'm not sure how good it (or the lead etc) would be, it's not been used for 17+ years now.
__________________

Baby, I was born this way.
Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2017, 15:23   #75
Chris
Trollsplatter
Cable Forum Team
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North of Watford
Services: Humane elimination of all common Internet pests
Posts: 36,870
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul M View Post
I do, but not one that was designed for digital reception, and I'm not sure how good it (or the lead etc) would be, it's not been used for 17+ years now.
In most cases transmitters are broadcasting DTT at similar power and in the same frequency group as they did in purely analogue days. If your aerial gave you good reception 17 years ago it will do so now, provided the wind hasn’t shifted it and the weather hasn’t degrade the exposed cable.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 15:50.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.