U.S President: Donald Trump

I am honestly starting to think Trump wants out but wants to be pushed rather then jump he cannot continue on this way it's affecting the standing of the US internationally and they cannot afford another three years of this. He still retains a lot of support amongst the public in the US more then he deserves given his performance so far but it will start to ebb away if he isn't seen to take control of the office he holds quickly. Such a disappointment this could have been a total sea change in western politics but his buffoonery is making boris johnson look the ultimate professional.

The only bright side to this is the end of hilary clinton politically which is fast becoming small consolation.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

I am honestly starting to think Trump wants out but wants to be pushed rather then jump he cannot continue on this way it's affecting the standing of the US internationally and they cannot afford another three years of this.

I don't think he things long term to be honest. He is a TV presenter working to TV rules. He seems addicted to the drama and chaos. So much unnecessary drama caused by twitter posts he never needs to make. Speeches which only hurt him politically, staff pitted against each other. It's bizarre. I mean putting aside my dislike of the man it's just weird how he is running it.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

The only bright side to this is the end of hilary clinton politically which is fast becoming small consolation.

Which is only thing that satisfies me greatly. If Trump leaves White House for whatever reason, during his term. Pence becomes 46th President, not her.

Word is today though that at least two dozen Republican Senators are requesting a special council re-investigate Clinton email scandal. They are not happy former Attorney General Loretta Lynch was telling former FBI Director Comey, to down play what was a Criminal Investigation and insisted he refer to it as a 'matter'. Comey said, when Lynch ordered him to use such a term, it confused and concerned him.

They have penned a letter to the Dept. Of Justice and are requesting Attorney General, Jeff Sessions investigate numerous concerns, here are some of them.

• Allegations that former Attorney General Loretta Lynch instructed then-FBI Director James Comey to downplay the nature of the Clinton email probe
  
• The FBI and DOJ’s decisions in the course of the email probe, including controversial immunity deals with Clinton aide Cheryl Mills and others
  
• The State Department’s involvement in deciding which Clinton emails to make public
  
• Disclosures in WikiLeaks-released emails regarding the Clinton Foundation and, according to the letter, “its potentially unlawful international dealings”
  
• Connections between Clinton officials and “foreign entities” including Russia and Ukraine
• Revelations in hacked Democratic National Committee emails about “inappropriate” coordination between the DNC and Clinton campaign against Bernie Sanders’ Democratic primary campaign
• The “unmasking” of Americans in intelligence documents and potentially related leaks of classified information
  
• Comey's admitted leak of details of his conversations with President Trump
  
• The FBI’s “reliance” on controversial firm Fusion GPS, which was involved in the questionable anti-Trump “dossier”

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

This madness can't continue, we're only 6 months in. Preibus was the main link to Republicans, he was the 'moderate' as it were. Is Trump just addicted to chaos and attention?

Anybody wondering what Putin may have gained from a Trump presidency, please look away now.

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Originally Posted by Damien

I don't think he things long term to be honest. He is a TV presenter working to TV rules. He seems addicted to the drama and chaos. So much unnecessary drama caused by twitter posts he never needs to make. Speeches which only hurt him politically, staff pitted against each other. It's bizarre. I mean putting aside my dislike of the man it's just weird how he is running it.

I totally agree. The Trump presidency has always seemed like one long reality TV series to me.

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Originally Posted by Mick

I'm not saying it did. The whole thing is a mess. McCain preached the day he came back that they never get things done because of Partisan politics, then he sides with the devil party by voting with them.

I think you've misunderstood what partisan means. McCain's actions by voting with the Democrats are non-partisan.

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Originally Posted by Mick

Outrageous because this reeks of discrimination

Surely the outrageous thing is what Damien posted namely that Trump woke up and just posted the ban on Twitter without going through any constitutional processes?

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Originally Posted by Mick

Just reading reaction from some Republican voters. They spewing venom towards the 3 Republican Senators. McCain especially. But saw one man say his Heathcare bills for his family have risen 5 x its original cost, says it's now $18,000 a year for his family of six.

It's wise not to believe everything on Twitter as posts are unverified. Millions of Obamacare haters out there and the odd one may be prone to exaggeration if it helps kill Obamacare off or they may have genuinely misunderstood the information they were given.

No exaggeration, their bills are that high.

I stand by my partisan politics assertion. I'm well aware of what it means Andrew.

Putin clearly not gaining anything, Trump is signing the sanctions on Russia, which he had the power to veto, although he would be fueling his critics if he had.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

This madness can't continue, we're only 6 months in. Preibus was the main link to Republicans, he was the 'moderate' as it were. Is Trump just addicted to chaos and attention?

If you vote in poor politicians this is sadly what you get as sadly the days of politicians this side of the pond or ours ever serving for the betterment of the whole country have sadly disappeared currently as chaos seems to reign supreme.

[papa smurf]

yes very sad sadly

[Arthurgray50@blu]

All Trump is doing is big prat. And using America as a toy. He thinks it is one of his businesses. And sacking people who gets in his way.

Obama care was put there to treat every American. Trump wants to scrap it, so that people would have to have insurance.

I am just counting there days when he sacks someone else's for getting in his way.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

All Trump is doing is big prat. And using America as a toy. He thinks it is one of his businesses. And sacking people who gets in his way.

Obama care was put there to treat every American. Trump wants to scrap it, so that people would have to have insurance.

I am just counting there days when he sacks someone else's for getting in his way.

Just FYI. Been some inaccurate reporting going on. Sky News repeatedly saying Trump fired his chief of staff. Not the case, he resigned. He said in a tv interview, he told Trump he has been considering it and resigned Thursday night.

John. F. Kelly replaces him, this means there is a JFK back in the WH.

Also Arthur. I've explained many times to you. Obamacare is not 'Free healthcare' it's not nowhere near anything like the NHS is here. Americans need Insurance now with Obamacare.

He was told 2 weeks ago Trump wanted him to leave, Trump lined up a replacement, and then he 'resigned'. Pretty sure being told by your boss he wants you to go and being told who your replacement is counts, in most people's eyes, as being fired...

[1andrew1]

One of Trump's aims was better relations with Russia. He did seem to be getting close to delivering here with talks about Syria but US-Russia relations now seem to be falling apart. This will be an interesting test for the President.

Vladimir Putin expels 755 US diplomats from Russia in tit-for-tat move
Russia has retaliated against new US sanctions by ordering 755 American diplomats to leave - a move that will create a fresh crisis in the relationship between the two countries.
Days after the both houses of the US Congress voted almost unanimously to impose fresh sanctions on Moscow, Vladimir Putin said he was responding to “unlawful” behaviour by Washington.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7868096.html

This situation comes at a bad time for Trump. After some six months in power, he can claim no big legislative victory. In contrast, after six months into their first terms, Barack Obama had launched an $800bn economic stimulus programme and George W Bush $1.4tn-worth of tax cuts.

Putin is reacting to the Republicans voting though a measure which ensures the Russian sanctions stay, they did so with a large enough majority that Trump can't veto it. (Well he can, but it's likely to be overturned).

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

One of Trump's aims was better relations with Russia. He did seem to be getting close to delivering here with talks about Syria but US-Russia relations now seem to be falling apart. This will be an interesting test for the President.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7868096.html

This situation comes at a bad time for Trump. After some six months in power, he can claim no big legislative victory. In contrast, after six months into their first terms, Barack Obama had launched an $800bn economic stimulus programme and George W Bush $1.4tn-worth of tax cuts.

It can get worse.

The Kremlin is done betting on Trump and planning how to strike back against U.S. sanctions

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

One of Trump's aims was better relations with Russia. He did seem to be getting close to delivering here with talks about Syria but US-Russia relations now seem to be falling apart. This will be an interesting test for the President.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7868096.html

This situation comes at a bad time for Trump. After some six months in power, he can claim no big legislative victory. In contrast, after six months into their first terms, Barack Obama had launched an $800bn economic stimulus programme and George W Bush $1.4tn-worth of tax cuts.

You conveniently forget there is three branches of government in play here.

Remember Obama tried to install gun control, after several US tragedies. The NRA, was having non of it and neither were most of the US Senate.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

You conveniently forget there is three branches of government in play here.

Remember Obama tried to install gun control, after several US tragedies. The NRA, was having non of it and neither were most of the US Senate.

My point is that the previous two US presidents had delivered signicant legislation in their first six months in power. Trump simply hasn't. Many Republicans are feeling frustrated by this. I'm not saying that Pence is getting quotes from decorators right now but compared to his predecessors, Trump has been found wanting.

There are other areas that Trump can take a stab at that might prove more successful like tax reform or infrastructure investment, two more of his promises. But he seems to be subsumed by ongoing staff changes, the Russian situation and repealing Obamacare at the expense of any significant legislative success.