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Old 10-11-2017, 11:43   #706
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Labour’s ideals are to spread the money of other people’s. In Labour’s world, you don’t have to strive to work hard, study to better yourself, because you will be given everything you need on a platter for free.
Until the bill arrives and then they scuttle off into opposition leaving others to pick up the pieces and cop all the flak for the tough choices which subsequently have to be made. There's nothing new about Corbyn or his version of Labour politics.

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The problem with that is that when you've milked the rich for all it's worth, where will the money come from then?

I completely agree with the idea of a mixed economy to ensure that the less well off are provided for, but the Corbyn/McDonnell Marxist approach fails to recognise that you can't have your cake and eat it too. Once the money is gone, it is gone. Why are people not learning from the mistakes made by other countries? This approach has failed wherever it has been tried. All it does is to make everyone poor (apart from a small elite at the top).
Well they don't want us to ask that question do they and it's not just the rich. The bank of mum and dad is currently supporting a whole lot of younger people and at the same time often having to pay for their social care right down to a very minimal amount of assets. A valuable family home is an obvious and easy target but you can only take it once and after that, especially when you've forced down the property values upon which the BOMAD is reliant, there are no more such assets left to take from them and probably not their children. Who'll be paying for all that social care then? We're not talking millionaire celebrities here, just ordinary families who've struggled to own their own homes and once it's gone it's gone.

You're dead right about the small elite at the top - once they assume control you soon find out that their version of socialism applies very differently to the ordinary masses than it does to them and their privileged chums. No shortages, queues and strife for them, only the best. It's happened time and time again all around the world yet still some people deny the inevitable.
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Old 11-11-2017, 09:32   #707
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Mebbe we should just tell the EU to go screw themselves . . what they gonna do, kick us out?

Well we are all in it together George certainly wants Theresa kicked out that is for sure.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...sa-may-largely

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/c...-a3686381.html
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Well we are all in it together George certainly wants Theresa kicked out that is for sure.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...sa-may-largely

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/c...-a3686381.html
Here's a test for you: what was the last interesting thing the George Osbourne said? The thing we noticed, that stood out, that took a stand and risked controversy in pursuit of a cause?

Here's one (I wouldn't say interesting but...).
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Here's a test for you: what was the last interesting thing the George Osbourne said? The thing we noticed, that stood out, that took a stand and risked controversy in pursuit of a cause?

Here's one (I wouldn't say interesting but...).
He said plenty before that unless you have convenient memory loss and want to forget it..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/b...s-by-2015.html

https://www.investmentweek.co.uk/inv...esperate-govts

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2...r-explanation/

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2...y-tale-of-woe/

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/0...ooks-til-2026/
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Here's a test for you: what was the last interesting thing the George Osbourne said? The thing we noticed, that stood out, that took a stand and risked controversy in pursuit of a cause?

Here's one (I wouldn't say interesting but...).
Saying he wanted the PM chopped up and in his freezer stood out.
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Saying he wanted the PM chopped up and in his freezer stood out.
If any ordinary Joe had said that, PC plod would have had them before the beak in an instant.
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If any ordinary Joe had said that, PC plod would have had them before the beak in an instant.
True ! Haven't heard that term for a long time, guess many on here won't have heard it. Reminds me I must dust off some Billy Bunter stories
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Or Just William.
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The Tories have got a history of turning on each other. They always destroy their own in the end, it's a natural process. It would make a great David Attenborough series; The Lifecycle of a Tory.
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It's great to see Labour taking this sort of anti-semitism thing amongst their potential candidates so seriously:

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In 2012 using the name Naz Kahn she said: “It’s such a shame that the history teachers in our school never taught us this but they are the first to start brainwashing us and our children into thinking the bad guy was Hitler.

“What have the Jews done good in this world??”
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...ts_about_Jews/

I suppose it's because the party doesn't have problem with it...
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It's great to see Labour taking this sort of anti-semitism thing amongst their potential candidates so seriously:

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...ts_about_Jews/

I suppose it's because the party doesn't have problem with it...
Not good, but bigots seem to exist in all parties.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8020656.html
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Not good, but bigots seem to exist in all parties.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8020656.html
Sadly racism and prejudice will always exist no matter how much one tries as you can't educate a mind that does not want to be educated Mr K.
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Sadly racism and prejudice will always exist no matter how much one tries as you can't educate a mind that does not want to be educated Mr K.
We're all told that the Tories are nasty, evil, racists but Labour are supposed to be better than all that aren't they? They'll always act decisively to root out this sort of thing just look at their record...
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Sadly racism and prejudice will always exist no matter how much one tries as you can't educate a mind that does not want to be educated Mr K.
"prejudice" is completely in the eye of the beholder anyway.
Everyone has their own views which someone else calls "prejudiced" (or an "..ism").
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We're all told that the Tories are nasty, evil, racists but Labour are supposed to be better than all that aren't they? They'll always act decisively to root out this sort of thing just look at their record...
Political parties come out with cheap insincere lip service remarks saying they will root out these things but even when l am long dead l suspect nothing much will have changed sadly.
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