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Old 09-11-2017, 05:43   #676
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Anyone other than Corbyn, or it's Venezuela MK II and no amount of food banks will save us from that socialism disaster.
Socialism , Capitalism not much to choose between the two as they are both pretty crap IMO.
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:33   #677
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Socialism , Capitalism not much to choose between the two as they are both pretty crap IMO.
So what system would you like Den ?
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:43   #678
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So what system would you like Den ?
he's talking Bolsheviks
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So what system would you like Den ?
One that considers all parts of society instead of certain select groups.

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he's talking Bolsheviks
No you obviously are pretty way out with that assertion papa.
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Old 09-11-2017, 11:57   #680
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One that considers all parts of society instead of certain select groups..
Sounds good, something like this


a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
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Sounds good, something like this


a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
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socialism

Yes because, it’s worked wonders for Venezuela.
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Sounds good, something like this


a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
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socialism

A abject failure if you look at the past Mr K.
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Old 09-11-2017, 12:11   #683
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A abject failure if you look at the past Mr K.

So, as we've said before, if they're all as 'bad as each other', you're going to have to stand for election yourself Den. Go for it !
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In a speech on Nov. 11, 1947, Sir Winston Churchill reminded the UK’s House of Commons that “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those others that have been tried.” In a similar fashion, capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others.

Capitalism is no different from anything else in this world. It is imperfect because imperfect men created it. Humans are not perfect, nor are they capable of perfection. Avarice and greed are not unique to capitalism. They were present in the USSR, and they will be present in any man-made system.
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Yes because, it’s worked wonders for Venezuela.
Yup, it's so great there that Red Ken's emigrating IIRC.
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So, as we've said before, if they're all as 'bad as each other', you're going to have to stand for election yourself Den. Go for it !
l am not worthy of that honour Mr K as there are many far more perfect for the job that l am.
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l am not worthy of that honour Mr K as there are many far more perfect for the job that l am.
i don't know leader of the Bingo party might look good on you
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She is responsible for the campaign, she signed off on the manifesto, she hired the advisors and took their advice. It's not a secret that the rest of the party felt she shut them out and relied too much on Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill. The cabinet were only told of the social care policy the day of it's unveiling. How is she not responsible? In the end she threw away the majority.

As for the young well throwing things at the electorate is what parties do. Why do you think the Conservatives offered the triple-lock for pensioners and largely isolated them from the austerity program? That's no different to Corbyn offering stuff to the young.
You can't expect the young not to react while the government does nothing for them and then patronise them by saying they're being manipulated when someone actually addresses their concerns. If there is a lesson from Brexit then that was it!

Besides there was also a swing in middle-aged voters in urban areas and a decline in the turnout of older people. It wasn't all young people.
The difference being that the pensioners have the triple lock. Jeremy admits that he couldn't deliver on his promise.
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