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Old 13-11-2017, 16:13   #736
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But one is not talking about the Labour party and its disasters as its the Conservatives who are in power and yet you seem to want to absolve them of any responsibilities for this countries current ills and their policy disasters which there are many..
Well, actually, we are. It is a bit rich that Labour are accusing the Conservatives of doing nothing even when they have already closed quite a few loopholes and are working to close the rest when Labour itself did nothing in all their years in power.. Do you really not see the irony, Den?

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Well, actually, we are. It is a bit rich that Labour are accusing the Conservatives of doing nothing even when they have already closed quite a few loopholes and are working to close the rest when Labour itself did nothing. Do you really not see the irony, Den?
But we are not talking about the Labour party and their considerable mistakes in government as you cannot keep blaming them for all our current ills as we are talking about the last few years and the present as thus so far HMG are big on talk and stabbing each other in the back and short on any deliverance of any decent coherent policies for the whole of this country and not just the groups that are likely to vote for them.
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Personally I think there's too much of this crap going on

5 years ago John says something to Fred, and now Alice finds it offensive

Bill brushed his hand against Alans knee 7 years ago and now Alan complains about it

An author writes a best seller back in 1964 and today the education authority condemns it

Just stop with all the political PC point scoring and start working together to sort this damn country out, you're just making fools of yourselves
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Old 13-11-2017, 16:45   #739
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But we are not talking about the Labour party and their considerable mistakes in government as you cannot keep blaming them for all our current ills as we are talking about the last few years and the present as thus so far HMG are big on talk and stabbing each other in the back and short on any deliverance of any decent coherent policies for the whole of this country and not just the groups that are likely to vote for them.
I'm not sure that you are digesting my post. I said that Labour did nothing on this for 13 years. Why, then, are the Conservatives being pilloried for 'not doing anything' (sic) when they did nothing themselves?

Labour ignored the problem completely. Then when the Conservatives get in and start the job of tackling it, Labour accuse them of not doing enough.

Flaming hypocrites!
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I'm not sure that you are digesting my post. I said that Labour did nothing on this for 13 years. Why, then, are the Conservatives being pilloried for 'not doing anything' (sic) when they did nothing themselves?

Labour ignored the problem completely. Then when the Conservatives get in and start the job of tackling it, Labour accuse them of not doing enough.

Flaming hypocrites!
Hypocrites apply to both sides of the political divide IMO.
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Hypocrites apply to both sides of the political divide IMO.
Not in this case.
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Meanwhile over in that veritable Utopia the likes of Corbyn and Red Ken still like to cite as the way forward when it suits:

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International credit ratings agency Standard & Poor's has declared Venezuela to be in "selective default".
The ratings agency said the South American nation had failed to make $200m (£153m) in repayments on its foreign debt.
Venezuela's state-run oil company PDVSA has also been declared in default by rating agencies Fitch and Moody's.
The news came just hours after the government met investors in Caracas to try to renegotiate its debt.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41982069

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Meanwhile over in that veritable Utopia the likes of Corbyn and Red Ken still like to cite as the way forward when it suits:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41982069

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What's this got to do with the Government and the Post Election Discussion?
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What's this got to do with the Government and the Post Election Discussion?
Jeremy Corbyn idolises the Venezuala socialist project, apparently. Look at his pronouncements and protests in that light.
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Jeremy Corbyn idolises the Venezuala socialist project, apparently. Look at his pronouncements and protests in that light.
Correct - it's not to difficult to grasp for most people is it, but some folks seem not to want Corbyn's nonsense to be scrutinised. I wonder why...

In the days when he was a marginalised loony lefty nobody who spent his time in parliament undermining his own party nobody much gave two hoots what he thought but he's leader of the opposition now and no self appointed moderator is going to stop these questions being asked of him or his dubious politics being exposed for what they are.
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The opposition is fair-game in a thread about the Government, this is essentially the UK politics thread minus Brexit.
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Well people are pointing to a so-called mess in the Conservative Party, completely ignoring the fact that Corbyn can't get any talent into his Shadow Cabinet because no-one with any integrity can bring themselves to serve! So who's really in chaos at the moment?
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Well people are pointing to a so-called mess in the Conservative Party, completely ignoring the fact that Corbyn can't get any talent into his Shadow Cabinet because no-one with any integrity can bring themselves to serve! So who's really in chaos at the moment?
The Government's in chaos at the moment. If the Government falls apart and Labour is elected then it will be their chance to show the country what they're made of. But at the moment they have less pressure.
Both are totally divided over Europe but at least Corbyn believes in his party's policy of leaving the EU, an idea as useless as him. Theresa May just believes in the opportunity to be PM.
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Well people are pointing to a so-called mess in the Conservative Party, completely ignoring the fact that Corbyn can't get any talent into his Shadow Cabinet because no-one with any integrity can bring themselves to serve! So who's really in chaos at the moment?
what????? he's got Diane Abbott - tactical wordsmith and numerical genius
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what????? he's got Diane Abbott - tactical wordsmith and numerical genius
Yes it takes a special kind of talented genius to double a citizens imprisonment with a few words, most Labour politicians are content with just making themselves look ridiculous, any brit in a foreign nick must be dreading bozos next speech, he could literally get them killed but hey it's just Boris being Boris
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