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Old 26-08-2015, 22:55   #2581
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

It's the unspoken assumptions that lie behind passing comments that I find so interesting ... Sorry if I come across as beating up on you, it's not my intention. I like chewin' the fat too.
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Old 26-08-2015, 23:57   #2582
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Sorry if I come across as beating up on you, it's not my intention.
I know that's not your style Chris.

Besides, even I know a good beating up is what I sometimes deserve
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Old 27-08-2015, 12:34   #2583
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

The fishwife doesn't like the BBC, presumably because asking the dear leader questions and expecting answers is anti-Scottish.

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Nicola Sturgeon will call for the BBC in Scotland to have more power, more money and its own TV channel, when she addresses the Edinburgh TV Festival.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-34070202
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Old 27-08-2015, 16:12   #2584
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The fishwife doesn't like the BBC, presumably because asking the dear leader questions and expecting answers is anti-Scottish.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-34070202
Well as we've seen at Westminster, they rather like asking questions but aren't quite so keen on answering them. Their economic projections were pure fantasy, their plan has backfired and they're being shown up for what they are.
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Old 27-08-2015, 17:26   #2585
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Regardless of anything the Natz might say, BBC Scotland is already *extremely* accommodating to their demands. Plus, missus and I are acquainted with more than a couple of people who work at Pacific Quay, and I can tell you for a fact there are plenty of Yessers in positions of influence in there already.

This is less about strengthening BBC Scotland per se, than it is weakening its ties with the rest of the organisation, especially its top management and senior journalists in London. The stooshie over Nick Robinson came about because, up until that point, the BBC's coverage of the referendum had been supplied and managed almost entirely out of Pacific Quay, but as the day drew near, the likes of Bumbling Brian Taylor and the insipid Glenn Campbell (who allowed Salmond and the nats in his audience to walk all over him in the second TV debate with Alistair Darling) became sidelined in favour of strong, experienced, unflappable journos from outside the Holyrood bubble. In other words, people who didn't owe the Natz any favours, had no need to keep them sweet, and were free to tell it as it was.

It is difficult to understate just how much the nationalists hated having journalists on the story that they couldn't bully, influence or otherwise control. After they lost the vote, they even took to barring certain London-based newspapers from their press conferences.

The SNP is a nasty, spiteful, authoritarian hate-fest, and it thinks it can control BBC Scotland if BBC Scotland can be relieved of the inconvenient reporting lines that lead up to offices it can't control.
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Old 13-09-2015, 13:31   #2586
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-34234024

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The SNP will set out the timescale for a possible second referendum on independence in its manifesto for next year's Scottish Parliament election.
But First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said she would only hold another referendum if she was confident she would win.
Opposition parties accused Ms Sturgeon of breaking her "once-in-a-generation" referendum promise.
Well anyone is surprised?
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Old 13-09-2015, 14:53   #2587
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Splendid. Please could we do this as soon as feasible in the hope that this time it's a yes?

Then we can have a CF sweepstake on how many years it is before Scotland tries to rejoin the union as its finances are in dire straits.
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Old 13-09-2015, 17:17   #2588
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Poor wee nippy is trying to walk a tightrope between those in the party that actually have the intelligence to realise that holding another referendum too soon (which they would lose, because the fundamentals haven't changed), would destroy any chance of them getting independence this century, and those who have joined the party in the last 12 months, aren't very clever, and who are demanding "indyref 2" as soon as possible.

If she's not careful, she'll split the party, or at least give some of the ultras the pretext to abandon the SNP and mount a credible challenge at the elections next year.
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Old 13-09-2015, 19:02   #2589
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Frankly, I hope they do leave the UK. At least we won't have any more incompetent Labour governments to worry about!
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Old 13-09-2015, 20:47   #2590
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Me too. They need to create a central bank too, since Bank of Scotland and Royal Bank of Scotland are both owned by NatWest and Lloyds respectively. Not to mention convert to the Euro, accept migrants...
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Old 13-09-2015, 20:50   #2591
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Poor wee nippy is trying to walk a tightrope between those in the party that actually have the intelligence to realise that holding another referendum too soon (which they would lose, because the fundamentals haven't changed), would destroy any chance of them getting independence this century, and those who have joined the party in the last 12 months, aren't very clever, and who are demanding "indyref 2" as soon as possible.

If she's not careful, she'll split the party, or at least give some of the ultras the pretext to abandon the SNP and mount a credible challenge at the elections next year.
Maybe they could be called the Provisional SNP...
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Frankly, I hope they do leave the UK. At least we won't have any more incompetent Labour governments to worry about!
Has the Scottish vote ever held the balance between Labour getting in or not, I don't think it has
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Old 15-09-2015, 22:49   #2593
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

1964 and February 1974.
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1964 and February 1974.
Or to put it another way

http://wingsoverscotland.com/why-lab...need-scotland/
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I do not want independence, the SNP are a " Do as your told bunch". We would have no say and be dictated too. We will always be stronger together and fight together for our rights. Much as I love Scotland we could never go it alone,
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