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Old 27-06-2017, 15:35   #1681
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Doesn't that show that when fake stories are printed they're easily discounted and withdrawn?
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Old 27-06-2017, 15:54   #1682
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Doesn't that show that when fake stories are printed they're easily discounted and withdrawn?
I do not think it has ever got to the stage where three journalist resign, all at once, at a well known branded news organisation.

But I have seen a video surface of a CNN producer caught on camera by project veritas, saying he thinks the Russia, Trump story is 'mostly total BS.'

CNN Producer caught saying things like,

'Trump is good for business, ratings are up.'

'CEO asked us to get back to the Russia narrative after covering Paris Accord issue for a day and half.'

'Even if Russia swung our elections, we swing theirs, our CIA is doing it all the time, we're out there trying to manipulate governments.'

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Old 27-06-2017, 15:57   #1683
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Nicely concluded Mick. Prepare for the backlash from the naysayers!
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Old 27-06-2017, 16:27   #1684
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I do not think it has ever got to the stage where three journalist resign, all at once, at a well known branded news organisation.
Well no but that's because this time they actually did print a bogus story and had to face the consequences. Proper journalists generally do not make up news. It doesn't occasionally happen, i.e totally fabrications, and they're fired or resigned when caught.

But not always which brings us too...

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But I have seen a video surface of a CNN producer caught on camera by project veritas, saying he thinks the Russia, Trump story is 'mostly total BS.'
Project Veritas. This guy has a known history for selective editing and distortion.

He has edited videos to make people look worse and taken out his part of the context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_...eos_.282009.29

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The videos were recorded during the summer of 2009 and appeared to show low-level ACORN employees in six cities providing advice to Giles and O'Keefe on how to avoid detection by authorities of tax evasion, human smuggling and child prostitution. He framed the undercover recordings with a preface of him dressed in a "pimp" outfit, which he also wore in TV media interviews. This gave viewers, including the media, the impression that he had dressed that way when speaking to ACORN workers. However, he actually entered the ACORN offices in conservative street clothes (the sleeve of his dress shirt is visible on camera). Furthermore, the ACORN employees involved reported his activities to the police after he left. O'Keefe selectively edited and manipulated his recordings of ACORN employees, as well as distorted the chronologies. Several journalists and media outlets have expressed regret for not properly scrutinizing and vetting his work.
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On March 8, 2011, shortly before the US Congress was to vote on funding for National Public Radio (NPR), O'Keefe released a video of a discussion with Ronald Schiller, NPR's senior vice president for fundraising, and associate Betsy Liley. Raw content was secretly recorded by O'Keefe's partners Ken Larrey and Shaughn Adeleye.

Due to questions at the time about the video's authenticity, staff of The Blaze analyzed the edited portion and compared it with the raw videotape, both of which were released simultaneously. As blogger Scott Baker wrote, analysis of the full video showed that a portion was seemingly edited to intentionally lie or mislead. Much of the context of the conversation was changed and elements were transposed and chronology shifted.
So I would wait for the full video/story of his meeting with the CNN guy.
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Old 27-06-2017, 16:38   #1685
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Well no but that's because this time they actually did print a bogus story and had to face the consequences. Proper journalists generally do not make up news. It doesn't occasionally happen, i.e totally fabrications, and they're fired or resigned when caught.

But not always which brings us too...



Project Veritas. This guy has a known history for selective editing and distortion.

He has edited videos to make people look worse and taken out his part of the context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_...eos_.282009.29

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So I would wait for the full video/story of his meeting with the CNN guy.
It's more than one story that has to have been retracted though. You missed that bit.
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Old 27-06-2017, 16:41   #1686
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It's more than one story that has to have been retracted though. You missed that bit.
The articles I saw mentioned only the single story that appeared on Thursday.
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Old 27-06-2017, 16:54   #1687
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Well no but that's because this time they actually did print a bogus story and had to face the consequences. Proper journalists generally do not make up news. It doesn't occasionally happen, i.e totally fabrications, and they're fired or resigned when caught.

But not always which brings us too...



Project Veritas. This guy has a known history for selective editing and distortion.

He has edited videos to make people look worse and taken out his part of the context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_...eos_.282009.29

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So I would wait for the full video/story of his meeting with the CNN guy.
I can see there is obvious editing but I cannot see how it can be denied that he (The CNN Producer), never said those things in the video, when he was asked specific questions, and even being quite flippant about News broadcasting ethics and that in his opinion, saying Russia swung the election, but we swing theirs.' and claiming the CIA manipulating foreign governments, i.e rig their elections.
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Old 27-06-2017, 17:04   #1688
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I can see there is obvious editing but I cannot see how it can be denied that he (The CNN Producer), never said those things in the video, when he was asked specific questions, and even being quite flippant about News broadcasting ethics and that in his opinion, saying Russia swung the election, but we swing theirs.' and claiming the CIA manipulating foreign governments, i.e rig their elections.
It's fake news again Mick, gets everywhere.... CF should ban it.
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It's fake news again Mick, gets everywhere.... CF should ban it.
You mean CNN links Mr K????
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Old 27-06-2017, 17:09   #1690
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I can see there is obvious editing but I cannot see how it can be denied that he (The CNN Producer), never said those things in the video, when he was asked specific questions, and even being quite flippant about News broadcasting ethics and that in his opinion, saying Russia swung the election, but we swing theirs.' and claiming the CIA manipulating foreign governments, i.e rig their elections.
I think he probably said it. The swing elections thing isn't a unheard of view although if the US did swing Russian elections they're doing a poor job of it.
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Old 27-06-2017, 17:12   #1691
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I think he probably said it. The swing elections thing isn't a unheard of view although if the US did swing Russian elections they're doing a poor job of it.
Agreed!
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I think he probably said it. The swing elections thing isn't a unheard of view although if the US did swing Russian elections they're doing a poor job of it.
The point here is it's going to get worse. The youth of today rely on social media and that's where the opportunity exists to influence them.

It is like an accident waiting to happen and it will.
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Just when you think he can't do anything more stupid....

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The US President has tweeted a short video clip of him wrestling a person with the CNN logo for a head.
The clip is an altered version of Donald Trump's appearance at a WWE wrestling event in 2007, in which he "attacked" franchise owner Vince McMahon in a scripted appearance.
The animation appears to have been posted to a pro-Trump internet forum earlier in the week.
CNN later accused the president of inciting violence against the media.
One panellist on ABC's morning show, Ana Navarro - a Republican Trump critic and CNN contributor - said "it is an incitement to violence. He is going to get somebody killed in the media."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40474118
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Just when you think he can't do anything more stupid....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40474118
Please explain how Trump is responsible for this.
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Please explain how Trump is responsible for this.
From the linked article:"The US President has tweeted...
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