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Old 17-04-2017, 11:46   #1261
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

The EU has said these agencies will have to leave the UK if we leave the EU. David Davis believes they can remain. Let's hope he's right but he does have his moments of delusion on Brexit.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out and let's hope for a win for the UK and jobs.


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London battles to keep hold of two main EU agencies
Britain is fighting to remain the home of two of the EUís most prestigious agencies covering medicines and banking after Brexit, in a move that is likely to cause astonishment in European capitals.
David Davis, Brexit secretary, does not accept that the two agencies and roughly 1,000 staff will have to move from Londonís Canary Wharf, even though the EU is about to run a competition to relocate them.
https://www.ft.com/content/72ead180-...1-d5f7e0cd0a16 or Google headline to read full article.
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Old 17-04-2017, 12:04   #1262
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Really? I never listened to them myself and I'm one of them.
Yes, really.

You're one of the rare exceptions to the rule. But every person I know around your age group, could not wait to vote out of that pile of garbage.

End of the day, I believe them when they said life was better Pre-EU era.
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Old 17-04-2017, 12:59   #1263
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

Such experiences are very subjective though. People become very nostalgic for the past and it helps they would have been younger then too. How much of that 'life was better' is more to do with the way society has changed in general rather than specific EU policies?

Because even after Brexit life won't go back to how it was. You'll still have jobs being lost to new technologies, culture will continue to change and we'll still be competing with the Asian economies. It's like those who think there will be a renaissance in British manufacturing. It's hard to see how we'll make that competitive with low-wage economies as the same pressures will still apply.
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Old 17-04-2017, 14:11   #1264
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Such experiences are very subjective though. People become very nostalgic for the past and it helps they would have been younger then too. How much of that 'life was better' is more to do with the way society has changed in general rather than specific EU policies?

Because even after Brexit life won't go back to how it was. You'll still have jobs being lost to new technologies, culture will continue to change and we'll still be competing with the Asian economies. It's like those who think there will be a renaissance in British manufacturing. It's hard to see how we'll make that competitive with low-wage economies as the same pressures will still apply.
I do not think it is anything to do with feeling nostalgic. Back in the 70's, walking out of one job on Friday, in to another Monday, I am told was so easy. Not so easy these days.

Getting on the property ladder, was easy and more affordable back in the 70's, now it is not so much because there is a chronic housing shortage, which in turn is pushing up prices to ridiculous levels, because of our stupid open door, 'let them all in', policy.

Local services are over stretched. Schools over stretched because where we was suppose to keep only 10,000's coming in, we're still allowing 100,000's come in.

To me, it's not about how I want life to go back to how it was, I just don't want our country being connected or grouped with corrupted establishments and other corrupt governments that we have allowed to join the EU bloc and that is essentially the main reason I voted out. I think Ramrod said a while ago, it's not just all about 'money', for the reason for leaving.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

As much as some may be overly nostalgic which influenced their vote there are those who attribute far too much to the EU and as such believe that without it things will be worse and won't change as we won't be part of the EU. That's the trouble with all this doesn't matter what is said about one side or the other because there are applicable scenarios that apply to both sides. If nothing else makes me still convinced i voted the right way it's the utter panic brexit and the Trump election have caused in the political world that had gotten too comfortable and complacent to bother about the little people they got a much deserved kick in the backside.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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I do not think it is anything to do with feeling nostalgic. Back in the 70's, walking out of one job on Friday, in to another Monday, I am told was so easy. Not so easy these days.

Getting on the property ladder, was easy and more affordable back in the 70's, now it is not so much because there is a chronic housing shortage, which in turn is pushing up prices to ridiculous levels, because of our stupid open door, 'let them all in', policy.

Local services are over stretched. Schools over stretched because where we was suppose to keep only 10,000's coming in, we're still allowing 100,000's come in.

To me, it's not about how I want life to go back to how it was, I just don't want our country being connected or grouped with corrupted establishments and other corrupt governments that we have allowed to join the EU bloc and that is essentially the main reason I voted out. I think Ramrod said a while ago, it's not just all about 'money', for the reason for leaving.
Different 70s to the one I grew up in, with a recession in the mid-70s, inflation of over 20% at times, unemployment tiding to double digits (it hit a post-war high of one and a half million), the Oil Crisis, IMF bailouts, 3 day weeks, Winter of Discontent...
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Old 17-04-2017, 20:04   #1267
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Different 70s to the one I grew up in, with a recession in the mid-70s, inflation of over 20% at times, unemployment tiding to double digits (it hit a post-war high of one and a half million), the Oil Crisis, IMF bailouts, 3 day weeks, Winter of Discontent...
Mid 70s isn't that when was way in after joining that disaster?

Either way it was still a better time before we joined that crap.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

There was only a few years where you could walk out of one job and straight into another.
Late 60's early 70's.
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There was only a few years where you could walk out of one job and straight into another.
Late 60's early 70's.


We joined the disaster bloc after 1972. Winter of discontent was caused by Widespread Unions and Strikes. But was a time way after we joined that corrupted pile of garbage.
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Different 70s to the one I grew up in, with a recession in the mid-70s, inflation of over 20% at times, unemployment tiding to double digits (it hit a post-war high of one and a half million), the Oil Crisis, IMF bailouts, 3 day weeks, Winter of Discontent...
all i can say is if you remember the 70s that well you were doing it wrong
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

I missed this session of Question Time earlier this month and when I miss it, usually something kicks off...

But seeing Diane Abbott get a stern ticking off by a Audience member, was music to my ears especially with what she said last year about leavers being racist.

But what's even more wonderful at the end of this youtube vid, only 3 minute video, was Michelle Dewberry's comment about leaving the EU means exactly that that. She summed it up quite succinctly...

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Another typical Labour hypocrite.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

More evidence - as if we needed it - that the BBC stands for Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.
They have an uncanny ability to fill their studio audience almost exclusively with leave voters.
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More evidence - as if we needed it - that the BBC stands for Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.
They have an uncanny ability to fill their studio audience almost exclusively with leave voters.
Where on earth do you get that idea from? The Brussels Broadcasting Company has been relentlessly pro EU the whole way though especially on current affairs output.
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More evidence - as if we needed it - that the BBC stands for Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.
They have an uncanny ability to fill their studio audience almost exclusively with leave voters.
Did you personally verify how each member of the audience voted?
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