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Old 06-02-2017, 15:31   #1
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Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

Brand new thread to discuss issues surrounding The UK Exit of the European Union.

Prior thread became bloated and it was becoming heated at times. Old thread will be closed and archived, as it was mainly about the Post debate and discussion after June 23rd 2016 Referendum.

It must be accepted on both sides of the argument that people have differing views. It is impossible for people to agree on stuff.

Similar issues with the old thread must not occur in this thread or action may be taken.
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Old 06-02-2017, 15:46   #2
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Re: UK Exit of EU (Brexit)

My own personal view is that regardless of whether we voted to leave or remain, I'd like to see us work together as a country to make things better. The trouble is, I am not convinced our current government have anyone's interests at heart but their own.
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Old 07-02-2017, 15:35   #3
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Re: UK Exit of EU (Brexit)

I believe that if we can get a good deal on brexit then we will be on course for something great, I am sure the other countries wouldn't want to lose the money the UK spends on imports, due to our lack of a industry.
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Old 07-02-2017, 15:48   #4
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I believe that if we can get a good deal on brexit then we will be on course for something great, I am sure the other countries wouldn't want to lose the money the UK spends on imports, due to our lack of a industry.
Yes but it is a two way street, we also need exports. Not insurmountable though.
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I am not convinced our current government have anyone's interests at heart but their own.
I'm pretty sure that applies to the previous ones as well.
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Feathering their own nest and political ends springs to mind..
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Feathering their own nest and political ends springs to mind..
Isn't that what being an MP is all about?
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Re: UK Exit of EU (Brexit)

Being a government or a MP means IMO the government and MP's putting the wider interests of this country first ahead of its own selfish personal interest's and agenda's and l have not seen that for a long long while sadly.
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Re: UK Exit of EU (Brexit)

As I mentioned in the old thread some MP's are in a bind over this issue. The country voted leave but their constituency may have voted to stay, in some cases by a large margin.

Because we have a representative system whose wishes should they most closely follow? The country or those who actually elected them. This isn't a conscience issue so I don't think MP's can simply follow their own agenda.
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As I mentioned in the old thread some MP's are in a bind over this issue. The country voted leave but their constituency may have voted to stay, in some cases by a large margin.

Because we have a representative system whose wishes should they most closely follow? The country or those who actually elected them. This isn't a conscience issue so I don't think MP's can simply follow their own agenda.
They should really be supporting the referendum result even if their constituents went the other way because come what may that is going to happen
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They should really be supporting the referendum result even if their constituents went the other way because come what may that is going to happen
If an MP won't uphold the wishes of his constituents what is he doing there? We know it won't change the referendum result but what's the point of voting for them if they won't represent you?
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If an MP won't uphold the wishes of his constituents what is he doing there? We know it won't change the referendum result but what's the point of voting for them if they won't represent you?
Unless we have referenda about everything how is any MP supposed to know what that majority of their constituents want on any given topic? Even when we have a referendum the results can be disputed or challenged as we have seen.
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If an MP won't uphold the wishes of his constituents what is he doing there? We know it won't change the referendum result but what's the point of voting for them if they won't represent you?
As regards the vote the other night then there is nothing to uphold really, every mp should have voted the same way imo,but as for the future debates on how we leave Europe and the deal we get then i would agree that the MP's need to go with what their constituents want because each area in the country will feel the effect differently
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