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Old 26-01-2017, 06:19   #316
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Haha I love how Sky are trying to make it sound like it was their choice and then trying to promote their sports channels lmao.
Its called Sky's inconvenient truth...

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For once vm are innocent lol.

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You can, although different company when BT lost Fox people were allowed to cancel their BT without penalty.

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Coming next VM lose Fox, nat geo, sky channels lol. I honestly wouldn't put it past Sky.
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I think Discovery's content has decreased in quality but increased in viewer numbers. Whether such viewers are as attractive to advertisers is another matter.
On reflection a few hours later, Discovery has been investing heavily in its Eurosport channel, most famously with the Olympics.
I'm sure Discovery and Sky will come to an arrangement eventually but until then, Sky and Now TV customers won't be happy to potentially see the loss of these channels especially when Sky's landline prices are going up nearly 10%.
I think long-term, this could encourage Discovery to sell its channels directly to consumers via an app on smart TVs and other streaming devices. It already has Eurosport Player as the basis for this

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I suspect SKY have already been preparing for the loss of these channels. SKY Sports Mix to cover Eurosport, Viceland to cover the Discovery Channels plus who knows maybe SKY Bravo might finally turn up to cover the nonsense broadcast on TLC, Quest and DMAX?
Now we know how Sky can freeze its TV prices for some customers for five years. Up line rental by nearly 10% and then reduce the number of channels each year. Job done.
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Old 26-01-2017, 07:54   #318
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Another interesting fact to emerge from this is Sky's reference to linear TV being in decline.

Discovery’s portfolio of channels includes many which are linear-only where viewing is falling.

If there is no deal forthcoming with Sky, there will be insufficient viewers left to keep Discovery channels going. This will inevitably lead to fewer channels being broadcast.

This is the first real sign that linear channels will be in decline in future years due to on demand viewing increasing in popularity and ultimately becoming dominant.

Having said that, I would be surprised if a last minute deal was not made on this occasion. Nonetheless, Sky's comment is significant.
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Old 26-01-2017, 07:56   #319
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No it looks pretty a pretty abrupt parting of the ways to me but it would be nice to know what others think?
The real bun fight is to come.

This is Murdoch vs Malone, again. For one last fight before they go to the big bank in the sky.

Malone is hoping to recreate in America what was done here, ie create one gigantic cableco, and film/tv company.

He has Discovery, including Eurosport. He has a share in Lionsgate. He wants to create a powerful competitor to the big 6 media companies in the US, especially Murdoch's. Eventually he may sell out to one of them.

Malone almost snatched Murdoch's company away from him once and this Discovery move, I think, is part of a wider fight to come.

Those lovely old grandads with their slippers and their cocoa and their billions to throw around, who said retirement was boring??
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Another interesting fact to emerge from this is Sky's reference to linear TV being in decline.

Discovery’s portfolio of channels includes many which are linear-only where viewing is falling.

If there is no deal forthcoming with Sky, there will be insufficient viewers left to keep Discovery channels going. This will inevitably lead to fewer channels being broadcast.

This is the first real sign that linear channels will be in decline in future years due to on demand viewing increasing in popularity and ultimately becoming dominant.

Having said that, I would be surprised if a last minute deal was not made on this occasion. Nonetheless, Sky's comment is significant.
Nice to see you pick out bit and pieces that you like OB.
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Old 26-01-2017, 08:01   #321
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The real bun fight is to come.

This is Murdoch vs Malone, again. For one last fight before they go to the big bank in the sky.

Malone is hoping to recreate in America what was done here, ie create one gigantic cableco.

He has Discovery, including Eurosport. He has a share in Lionsgate. He wants to create a powerful competitor to the big 6 media companies in the US, especially Murdoch's. Eventually he may sell out to one of them.

Malone almost snatched Murdoch's company away from him once and this Discovery move, I think, is part of a wider fight to come.

Those lovely old grandads with their slippers and their cocoa and their billions to throw around, who said retirement was boring??
Well, if John Malone now capitalised on his recent purchases such as Lionsgate and launched some exclusive channels on the back of it, that would certainly deal a big blow to Sky in terms of paying customers. It would put VM in a much more competitive position.
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Old 26-01-2017, 08:03   #322
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Well, if John Malone now capitalised on his recent purchases such as Lionsgate and launched some exclusive channels on the back of it, that would certainly deal a big blow to Sky in terms of paying customers. It would put VM in a much more competitive position.
That will probably happen eventually, but at the moment Sky has the rights to all new films in the UK.
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For once vm are innocent lol.

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You can, although different company when BT lost Fox people were allowed to cancel their BT without penalty.

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Coming next VM lose Fox, nat geo, sky channels lol. I honestly wouldn't put it past Sky.
Virgin Media UK did lost Sky Basic years old.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Maybe Discovery will push their Discoverygo streaming offering rather than bowing to Sky?

OB's prediction of the demise of linear broadcast TV might just be starting to happen.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

In terms of Discovery's response, could it launch its own pack and sell directly to Sky's customers in the same way that BT does say for £4.99pm? It could also ally with other pay-TV channels and launch a competing offering to Sky on its own platform. Or do a big deal with BT and let Sy sell access to its channels on the Sky platform?
Discovery could offer inclusive access to an app on Smart TVs and streaming devices and eventually migrate customers over to these devices instead of satellite.

There is a parallel situation with Sky in Germany too which could see Discovery's portfolio leave the platform on 1st February.
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/...iage-contract/

As I mentioned yesterday, Sky Media sells advertising for Discovery's channels. May be a bit stressful at Sky Media at the moment! A new deal was only signed in October last year. Don't think this includes Eurosport.
https://www.skymedia.co.uk/news/disc...ip-uk-ireland/

Discover's shares were down 3.19% 4pm Eastern Time yesterday.
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Sky to offer full TV service without a dish for the first time

https://www.theguardian.com/business...e-rights-costs

http://www.techradar.com/news/sky-q-...lite-from-2018

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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

.... I knew it and said it here. They're turning into a cableco!

I said in the streaming or linear tv threads, that rather than Now TV being a defensive move, to mop up some cancelled tv subs, its an offensive one as it gradually transitions from a satellite tv company to a cableco in all but name.
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That's an interesting development. I wonder if Virgin Media will follow suit and deliver its TV service via broadband to non-cabled areas?
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As well as cutting installation costs, does this mean that it is a closed platform and that companies like BT will only be able to sell their channels on Sky's satellite platform?
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Another interesting fact to emerge from this is Sky's reference to linear TV being in decline.

Discovery’s portfolio of channels includes many which are linear-only where viewing is falling.

If there is no deal forthcoming with Sky, there will be insufficient viewers left to keep Discovery channels going. This will inevitably lead to fewer channels being broadcast.

This is the first real sign that linear channels will be in decline in future years due to on demand viewing increasing in popularity and ultimately becoming dominant.

Having said that, I would be surprised if a last minute deal was not made on this occasion. Nonetheless, Sky's comment is significant.
No it is pure greed from both parties plain and simple.

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Well, if John Malone now capitalised on his recent purchases such as Lionsgate and launched some exclusive channels on the back of it, that would certainly deal a big blow to Sky in terms of paying customers. It would put VM in a much more competitive position.
If and if it is Malone and Murdoch swinging their bits at each other then VM will also suffer as no doubt SKY will retaliate and refuse a deal in the future for Sky owned channels to be on VM and those include the Nat geo channels i believe aswell as FOX.
It's going to get very messy.

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Maybe Discovery will push their Discoverygo streaming offering rather than bowing to Sky?

OB's prediction of the demise of linear broadcast TV might just be starting to happen.
If the discoverygo app that launches here is anything like the USA one forget it, it is buggy as hell.
But then again it is relatively new so i guess bugs are to be expected.
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