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Old 25-11-2011, 10:14   #61
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Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock

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I am sorry sorry to here about any job loss in the UK . A backward step I feel in losing UK jobs to the far east. Are there any petitions out there ? or is it a done deal .
As with all big business its mushroom management.
The petition is via the link above.
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Old 25-11-2011, 13:43   #62
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Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock

So, is it the case that everybody can keep their jobs if they are prepared to move to Swansea?
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Old 25-11-2011, 15:07   #63
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Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock

I've signed the petition - in the vain hope that VM will take notice.

By the way - I notice the CWU are calling for Richard Branson to stop the closure. I thought he had no connection with VM?
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Old 25-11-2011, 15:17   #64
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I've signed the petition - in the vain hope that VM will take notice.

By the way - I notice the CWU are calling for Richard Branson to stop the closure. I thought he had no connection with VM?
He does not own Virgin Media but any bad publicity may prompt some action possibly.
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He does not own Virgin Media but any bad publicity may prompt some action possibly.
Let's hope so.
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So, is it the case that everybody can keep their jobs if they are prepared to move to Swansea?
If you are job matched, yes.
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Old 25-11-2011, 17:52   #67
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He does not own Virgin Media but any bad publicity may prompt some action possibly.
He doesn't own it, but he's still a large shareholder, and obviously Brand owner.

but it's irrelevant, if it has to shut, then it'll shut.
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He doesn't own it, but he's still a large shareholder, and obviously Brand owner.

but it's irrelevant, if it has to shut, then it'll shut.
He has approx 7/10% shares but does not have anything to do with running the business as it is still NTL/Telewest behind the facade.
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If you are job matched, yes.
So those people can keep their job if they choose to

What about those that aren't "job matched"? Will they be redeployed or retrained etc?
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So those people can keep their job if they choose to *move home from Liverpool to Swansea*
There. I corrected your post by adding the extremely non-trivial information you somehow forgot to include.
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Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock

Can I ask if there was any suggestion of the costs of moving house being taken into account..It's not exactly cheap to move.
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So those people can keep their job if they choose to

What about those that aren't "job matched"? Will they be redeployed or retrained etc?
Not much of a choice for most, as only a tiny percentage will be able to move to Swansea as they will have family commitments etc in Liverpool. It's a fair distance to relocate to. Of course I'm not privvy to everyones plans around this.

Anyone who isn't job matched will be made redundant. They can apply for other roles within VM or any other company if they wish to, but there is no guarantee of a job at the end of it.

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Can I ask if there was any suggestion of the costs of moving house being taken into account..It's not exactly cheap to move.
There is a relocation package, yes.
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Not much of a choice for most, as only a tiny percentage will be able to move to Swansea as they will have family commitments etc in Liverpool. It's a fair distance to relocate to. Of course I'm not privvy to everyones plans around this.

Anyone who isn't job matched will be made redundant. They can apply for other roles within VM or any other company if they wish to, but there is no guarantee of a job at the end of it.

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There is a relocation package, yes.
Well it's not much but at least it should make the move easier.

As for everyone else I'm sorry for them all.Indeed my sympathies go to everyone else facing redundancies at the moment.
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Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock

The social cost of a long-distance job-move can be far higher than the basic financial cost of hiring a removal van and arranging house sale/purchase, though the emotional costs even of those things should not be under-stated.

I have taken the long-distance relocation option once before following a buy-out so I am well aware of the long-lasting implications, especially for those with families. I find the statement "they can move if they choose to" to be lacking in any understanding or empathy for the implications of it and I find the attachment of a smiley to that statement to be both highly patronising and, given the evident lack of understanding, misplaced in the extreme.
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There. I corrected your post by adding the extremely non-trivial information you somehow forgot to include.
Many people move all the time, either in order to keep their job when their employer relocates or to obtain promotion, it's commonplace.

It all depends on how seriously people wish to be in employment and/or work for VM in particular. In the current economic climate, I would advise staff to think very carefully indeed, if they are lucky enough to be jobmatched.

Of course, there will be limited circumstances where a move may be more problematic eg having seriously ill family members in Liverpool, having a partner who is settled in a good career there etc.

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Can I ask if there was any suggestion of the costs of moving house being taken into account..It's not exactly cheap to move.
I would imagine so, most companies have some sort of relocation package. Ours is called a "disturbance allowance".

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The social cost of a long-distance job-move can be far higher than the basic financial cost of hiring a removal van and arranging house sale/purchase, though the emotional costs even of those things should not be under-stated.

I have taken the long-distance relocation option once before following a buy-out so I am well aware of the long-lasting implications, especially for those with families. I find the statement "they can move if they choose to" to be lacking in any understanding or empathy for the implications of it and I find the attachment of a smiley to that statement to be both highly patronising and, given the evident lack of understanding, misplaced in the extreme.
The smile was to indicate my pleasure that some people will be offered the chance not to lose their job.
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