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Old 18-08-2017, 16:31   #16
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A wonderful sight Osem but not exactly great in that it won't be fully operational until 2020 as if we had a major conflict tomorrow we would not have this great aircraft carrier at our disposal.
Indeed and over 900ft long!!
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Old 18-08-2017, 16:36   #17
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They are worth every penny we spent building them. It makes a change to see money being spent of this country's protection instead of money being taken away.
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Methinks they did this a bit too soon:

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They were once the pride of Britain’s RAF and Royal Navy – but now these stripped-down Harrier vertical take-off jump jets sit like skeletons in the famous US aircraft ‘Boneyard’ in the Arizona desert.
The once iconic aircraft – whose original versions first saw active service more than 40 years ago – are among some of the 72 Harriers that Britain prematurely scrapped and then sold to America for a knockdown £116 million last November.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lacements.html
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I suggest using the top deck for parking and recharging electric vehicles and the lower decks as a prison so that the taxpayer gets some payback before 2023 or when the carrier is first deployed
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She will be commissioned next year and will receive her first operational deployment in 2020, by which time there will be about a dozen F35Bs on board. She is not, and will never be, an aircraft carrier without aircraft.
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The posted link suggested she wouldn't be fully operational until 2023. We may have all been zapped by then
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The posted link suggested she wouldn't be fully operational until 2023. We may have all been zapped by then
It won't have a full complement of RN/RAF fixed-wing aircraft until then. It will, however, be operational in 2020, with a mix of RAF and USMC F-35Bs embarked, plus whichever UK military rotary aircraft are required.
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It won't have a full complement of RN/RAF fixed-wing aircraft until then. It will, however, be operational in 2020, with a mix of RAF and USMC F-35Bs embarked, plus whichever UK military rotary aircraft are required.
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And, someone already landed a drone on it.. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/0...drone_landing/
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It's one hell of a Gin palace
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First ever war ship named after this present monarch. The other will be named HMS Prince of Wales.
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I will point out that she was built by 5 different BRITISH shipyards,will be maintained by Portsmouth Dockyard for the next 50 years and as a consequence has and will be providing much needed jobs in the area where I live and at the 5 previously mentioned shipyards. I rather think that us taxpayers will be getting our money's worth.
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I will point out that she was built by 5 different BRITISH shipyards,will be maintained by Portsmouth Dockyard for the next 50 years and as a consequence has and will be providing much needed jobs in the area where I live and at the 5 previously mentioned shipyards. I rather think that us taxpayers will be getting our money's worth.
While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not so sure that the country, as a whole, is getting anything like its 'money's worth'. Keeping people gainfully employed must surely be secondary to national defence, yes?

An aircraft carrier that has no aircraft is useless. That is the bottom line.

This isn't a party-political thing, more of a MOD 'no-clue' thing and is an issue that will not be addressed while the underlying reasons for the abysmal planning and execution of this build are buried beneath partisan politics.

We are all paying for this travesty, no matter what our political affiliation may be.
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While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not so sure that the country, as a whole, is getting anything like its 'money's worth'. Keeping people gainfully employed must surely be secondary to national defence, yes?

An aircraft carrier that has no aircraft is useless. That is the bottom line.

This isn't a party-political thing, more of a MOD 'no-clue' thing and is an issue that will not be addressed while the underlying reasons for the abysmal planning and execution of this build are buried beneath partisan politics.

We are all paying for this travesty, no matter what our political affiliation may be.
Absolutely spot on and to put it bluntly the MOD could not organise a piss up at a brewery to be perfectly frank.
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Well us locals in the area of Portsmouth feel differently. Oh and as for the MOD being inept try figuring in the roles of successive governments who are just as culpable in the cock up department when it comes to our armed forces.
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