VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
03-05-2017, 17:13
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cf.geek
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
Finally gone live here, full signal but poor speeds... also not connecting automatically with the app.
Does anyone know how to connect to these networks without the app?
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04-05-2017, 00:57
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Virgin Media Staff
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
Considering the connection is capped at 20Mbps, depending how far away from the hotspot you're connected to that might not be a bad speed.
Also you can't connect without the app currently. No announced plans to allow it either.
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04-05-2017, 07:15
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
Also you can't connect without the app currently. No announced plans to allow it either.
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That's a pity seeing as I don't have a fancy smart phone so the laptop is my weapon of choice. 
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04-05-2017, 07:38
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cf.geek
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
Yeah, laptop / other device is why I was asking too.
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04-05-2017, 08:18
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
That's a pity seeing as I don't have a fancy smart phone so the laptop is my weapon of choice. |
Buy a cheap smart phone if hotspots become useful.
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04-05-2017, 09:16
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
The areas have obviously been increased but no mention on the website yet or email sent out?
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04-05-2017, 09:37
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cf.geek
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
Not sure if it's related but the 2 "Virgin Media" networks I could see yesterday have disappeared since the area outage last night.
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04-05-2017, 09:38
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
Buy a cheap smart phone if hotspots become useful.
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There are certainly plenty of good cheaper ones out there if one looks.
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04-05-2017, 09:54
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
I'm not entirely sure how a cheap smart phone helps if the user wants to use a laptop. Unless you do some reverse tethering and I'm not sure that's worth the effort.
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04-05-2017, 11:30
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
I thought he just wanted access to hotspots when out and about, that is why i said cheap phone.
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04-05-2017, 16:57
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
You can extract your username and password from the certificates for iOS. I've managed to get it to work on a MacBook Pro and a netbook running Linux. I've not managed to get it to connect in Windows, but it may just be the laptop I was using.
They could be detecting and blocking Windows though.
Last edited by jfman; 04-05-2017 at 17:00.
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05-05-2017, 09:50
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Virgin Media Staff
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
However if you connect that way, there is no verification that the SSID you're connecting to is actually part of the Virgin Media WiFi network, or that the server that is asking for your username and password is real.
The certificates that the app installs on the configured devices ensure that the device only connect to authorised 'Virgin Media' SSIDs and that the network authentication past that is also secure.
So as the app is currently the only source of those certificates, only if you use the app to configure a device can you be sure that you're connection to Virgin Media WiFi is valid and secure.
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05-05-2017, 14:15
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
There are virtually no other VM users around me, as this is about the end of the line for VM broadband cabling. The vast majority of people are BT etc.
However it's all a moot point as I use a Microsoft Lumia 950 .....
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05-05-2017, 15:43
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
However if you connect that way, there is no verification that the SSID you're connecting to is actually part of the Virgin Media WiFi network, or that the server that is asking for your username and password is real.
The certificates that the app installs on the configured devices ensure that the device only connect to authorised 'Virgin Media' SSIDs and that the network authentication past that is also secure.
So as the app is currently the only source of those certificates, only if you use the app to configure a device can you be sure that you're connection to Virgin Media WiFi is valid and secure.
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You are still required to accept security certificates from the RADIUS server when you first connect. If you can confirm your first connection is to a valid VM hub then evil twins will prompt with a warning to accept a "new" certificate.
You still have the same level of security as anyone using the App. In the case of the MacOS platform you can intercept the certificates intended for your iOS device and use the same ones.
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10-05-2017, 22:40
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Re: VM Hubs as WiFi hot spots
I just want to ask:
Can I use the free Virgin Media Wifi without using the app? I have a rooted S5 but the app wont work on it, also what about laptop users? i often take my laptop round to my friends and there are a few virgin wifi networks around but dont know how to login? I've tried my vm username & password but it dont accept?
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