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Should Virgin Media and Cable & Wireless Worldwide merge?
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Old 24-02-2012, 13:27   #166
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You missed Astrium!!

The question was nothing to do with what you can read up about the history of Marconi. As a share holder of what is now Telnet I can do that myself.

The question was:
The answer to that question is that Mercury was never part of GEC/Marconi and has been owned by Cable and Wirless (1984-1999), NTL (1999-2006) NTL:Telewest (2006-2007) and now Virgin Media (2007-)
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Old 24-02-2012, 13:31   #167
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The answer to that question is that Mercury was never part of GEC/Marconi and has been owned by Cable and Wirless (1984-1999), NTL (1999-2006) NTL:Telewest (2006-2007) and now Virgin Media (2007-)
With respect Alan, I'll take more notice of those in this thread who know their subject, rather than those who are just looking it up. As not all sources are correct.
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Old 24-02-2012, 13:33   #168
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I thought Mercury was part of Marconi?
Not quite, but if you look at both Cable and Wireless Worldwide and Cable and wireless Communications, the website tells you the history of the company.
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Old 24-02-2012, 13:36   #169
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Not quite, but if you look at both Cable and Wireless Worldwide and Cable and wireless Communications, the website tells you the history of the company.
So who was it who started putting phone boxes in streets (quite a few years ago now), in competition with BT?

I may be wrong, but I'm sure I recall the name on them being Mercury, but they were actually Marconi.
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The answer to that question is that Mercury was never part of GEC/Marconi and has been owned by Cable and Wirless (1984-1999), NTL (1999-2006) NTL:Telewest (2006-2007) and now Virgin Media (2007-)
You are wrong, Mercury Communications is still Cable and Wireless, the network 'Mercury' and 'Energis' as well as Thus and Your Communications are all Cable and Wireless.

Only the residential business of Mercury/Cable and Wireless was sold to NTL. The none Cable services like the Mercury 131 and 132 service was sold by NTL to Npower who then sold that to Tiscali.

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So who was it who started putting phone boxes in streets (quite a few years ago now), in competition with BT?

I may be wrong, but I'm sure I recall the name on them being Mercury, but they were actually Marconi.
Marconi manufactures payphone and payphone equipment for both Mercury and BT.

IPM a competitor of Marconi acquired Mercury sites and turned them into interphone telephone boxes with there own corporate design.

Interphone went through various ownerships and were left in a very shoddy state, a majority of the sites were sold to Spectrum Interactive and the other sites were refurbished to a new kiosk design and is called Infocus public networks. All the former Mercury and orange Interphone kiosks have nearly all gone.
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You are wrong, Mercury Communications is still Cable and Wireless, the network 'Mercury' and 'Energis' as well as Thus and Your Communications are all Cable and Wireless.

Only the residential business of Mercury/Cable and Wireless was sold to NTL. The none Cable services like the Mercury 131 and 132 service was sold by NTL to Npower who then sold that to Tiscali.

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Marconi manufactures payphone and payphone equipment for both Mercury and BT.

IPM a competitor of Marconi acquired Mercury sites and turned them into interphone telephone boxes with there own corporate design.

Interphone went through various ownerships and were left in a very shoddy state, a majority of the sites were sold to Spectrum Interactive and the other sites were refurbished to a new kiosk design and is called Infocus public networks. All the former Mercury and orange Interphone kiosks have nearly all gone.
The Marconi Telcommnuications assets are now split between Ericsson and Telent

So you are saying that Mercury Communications assets were split between Virgin Media (Cable Residential Business assets), TalkTalk (Non-Cable Residential Business assets) and C&W Worldwide (remaining assets)?
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You are wrong, Mercury Communications is still Cable and Wireless, the network 'Mercury' and 'Energis' as well as Thus and Your Communications are all Cable and Wireless.

Only the residential business of Mercury/Cable and Wireless was sold to NTL. The none Cable services like the Mercury 131 and 132 service was sold by NTL to Npower who then sold that to Tiscali.

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Marconi manufactures payphone and payphone equipment for both Mercury and BT.

IPM a competitor of Marconi acquired Mercury sites and turned them into interphone telephone boxes with there own corporate design.

Interphone went through various ownerships and were left in a very shoddy state, a majority of the sites were sold to Spectrum Interactive and the other sites were refurbished to a new kiosk design and is called Infocus public networks. All the former Mercury and orange Interphone kiosks have nearly all gone.
Ahh, I knew there was a connection somewhere. Thanks for explaining, and putting my mind at rest that I'm not going mad
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Ahh, I knew there was a connection somewhere. Thanks for explaining, and putting my mind at rest that I'm not going mad
http://www.redphonebox.info/gallerynonbt.html

IPM retained some of the Mercury phone boxes but all the blue hooded kiosks were all replaced.

The GPT Marconi telephones were also swapped for IPM's own payphones.

As of today, the same telephones are in use today by the present owner. Marconi still produces and maintains BT and Spectrum Interactive payphones.
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http://www.redphonebox.info/gallerynonbt.html

IPM retained some of the Mercury phone boxes but all the blue hooded kiosks were all replaced.

The GPT Marconi telephones were also swapped for IPM's own payphones.

As of today, the same telephones are in use today by the present owner. Marconi still produces and maintains BT and Spectrum Interactive payphones.
Do you mean Telent (the former Marconi)?
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The Marconi Telcommnuications assets are now split between Ericsson and Telent

So you are saying that Mercury Communications assets were split between Virgin Media (Cable Residential Business assets), TalkTalk (Non-Cable Residential Business assets) and C&W Worldwide (remaining assets)?
Mercury Communications was merged with the rest of the Cable and Wireless company in 1997, Cable and Wireless Communications which formed of Cable franchises,residential 131/132 services and 50% of One2One, Cable and Wireless Worldwide is what you knew as Mercury.

They sold the Cable Franchises and the 131/132 to NTL in 2000
They sold the 50% of one2one to Deutsche Telekom in 1999

Business customers using Cable and Wireless's cable franchises became NTL Business customers obviously.

Those customers and lines who use the Cable and Wireless (Mercury) network remained Cable and Wireless customers.

NTL sold the 131/132 dialler service to Npower for £7 Million and then Npower sold it to Tiscali.

Tiscali probably upgraded them customers onto its own service abandoning the dialler equipment and the use of Cable and Wireless as it was no longer necessary to use that anymore.

Bulldog was bought by Cable and Wireless in 2004 and sold off in 2006 to Tiscali which is now TalkTalk but probably no longer use the Cable and Wireless LLU network.
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Do you mean Telent (the former Marconi)?
I don't know where you got the information from but as it says here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Communications

Marconi was nothing to do with Mercury Cable and Wireless except for manufacturing Mercury's payphones.
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Mercury Communications was merged with the rest of the Cable and Wireless company in 1997, Cable and Wireless Communications which formed of Cable franchises,residential 131/132 services and 50% of One2One, Cable and Wireless Worldwide is what you knew as Mercury.

They sold the Cable Franchises and the 131/132 to NTL in 2000
They sold the 50% of one2one to Deutsche Telekom in 1999

Business customers using Cable and Wireless's cable franchises became NTL Business customers obviously.

Those customers and lines who use the Cable and Wireless (Mercury) network remained Cable and Wireless customers.

NTL sold the 131/132 dialler service to Npower for £7 Million and then Npower sold it to Tiscali.

Tiscali probably upgraded them customers onto its own service abandoning the dialler equipment and the use of Cable and Wireless as it was no longer necessary to use that anymore.

Bulldog was bought by Cable and Wireless in 2004 and sold off in 2006 to Tiscali which is now TalkTalk but probably no longer use the Cable and Wireless LLU network.
Who uses the Cable and Wireless LLU network?
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Who uses the Cable and Wireless LLU network?
You've asked that already, Virgin Media National customers use it, well they did as of 2008, Demon and customers using BT lines to access Cable and Wireless or Thus services (In-Direct Acess)
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You've asked that already, Virgin Media National customers use it, well they did as of 2008, Demon and customers using BT lines to access Cable and Wireless or Thus services (In-Direct Acess)
He will probably ask again if the thread needs bumping
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Cable and Wireless Worldwide is on Normura's list of possible M&A targets (35 in total) in 2012

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/m...ts-bid-pick-up
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