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Old 17-04-2017, 00:44   #1261
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

This makes interesting reading.

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Sources with links to the intelligence community say it is believed that Carter Page went to Moscow in early July carrying with him a pre-recorded tape of Donald Trump offering to change American policy if he were to be elected, to make it more favorable to Putin. In exchange, Page was authorized directly by Trump to request the help of the Russian government in hacking the election.
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Old 17-04-2017, 00:59   #1262
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Seriously Andrew your trying to imply Trump is following the clinton foreign policy line which was just an extension of the obama line which Trump has clearly not followed so far nor looks like doing anytime soon. Obama and his disinterest is why we have the situation with North Korea and it's why Russia has taken more aggressive steps then it was before Obama and lets not mention the total mess he created in Syria. Obama was a foreign policy disaster and clinton would have managed to be worse given her attitude that baiting Russia was a good idea, the further Trump stays away from their line the better for all of us.
1. Nato
Electioneering Trump: Nato is obsolete.
Hillary Clinton & Presidential Trump: Keep Nato, it plays a vital role.

2. China
Electioneering Trump: Will designate China a currency-manipulator on his first day in office.
Hillary Clinton & Presidential Trump: Don't designate China a currency-manipulator.

3. Syria
Electioneering Trump: Less involvement than Bush in Syria, adopt an America-first policy, fate of Assad in the hands of the Syrian people.
Hillary Clinton & Presidential Trump: Global policeman.
"Indeed, Trump seems to be carrying out precisely the same policy toward Syria that Clinton promised, not only during the campaign but also in an interview just hours before the strikes."

4. Russia
Electioneering Trump: Happy to praise Putin.
Hillary Clinton & Presidential Trump: Traditional wary approach.
"What this suggests is that to whatever extent Trump’s campaign and initial administration might have been “pro-Russian”, its current orientation is the same as Clinton’s..."

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Old 17-04-2017, 01:10   #1263
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It's not same as Clintons Andrew, far from it. You have posted inaccurate stuff there on both Trump and Clinton policies during the campaign. It's all irrelevant either way, she lost (thankfully).
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Old 17-04-2017, 03:00   #1264
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If you just post the general headlines it looks very similar but if you delve deeper then a puddle huge differences become obvious and the massive change in approach and policy is also obvious. Just one to get you started Trump is still pushing for all NATO members to pay their fair share and that failure to do so will have consequences.
 
Old 17-04-2017, 09:17   #1265
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If you just post the general headlines it looks very similar but if you delve deeper then a puddle huge differences become obvious and the massive change in approach and policy is also obvious. Just one to get you started Trump is still pushing for all NATO members to pay their fair share and that failure to do so will have consequences.
What is the massive change in approach? Pushing for NATO to pay their fair share is standard as well, Trump is more vocal on it certainly but that isn't a massive change.

Trump has continued the US military action in the middle east. He has also intervened in Syria which has a massive point of contention in the election campaign with Clinton's calls for the same being called the start of WW3 - by Trump himself.

He has even continued America's attempts to curry favor with China rather than labeling them a currency manipulator. Remember in the campaign when China was his biggest foreign policy foe? Turns out that there are reasons why America has previously sought to work with China - i.e their massive size and their political influence in Asia.

I think these are good u-turns but it's mad not to call them as such.

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This makes interesting reading.
Way too wacky.

Why record yourself on tape giving incriminating offers? Why state explicitly what the quid-pro-quo is when both sides would already know it?

If there was collusion between the two it would be advisors speaking to Russian agents about when e-mails would be leaked and off the record assurances of sanctions being lifted etc. All Russia needed is that Trump isn't Clinton and for a while their objectives would have been the same.
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This makes interesting reading.
Good to see that The Onion has some competition at last, this is the funniest thing on the thread I've read for a long time.
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

The Donald's head will explode when he hears about this although I did find one of the groups detractors responses about Trump being neither amusing


Dr Francis made clear that he - like the psychiatrists diagnosing Trump - is not a fan of the president, and finds his politics 'distressing'.
However, he insists that 'psychiatric name-calling is a misguided way of countering' the president's approach to politics.
In fact, he said, he feels it is an 'insult to the mentally ill (who are mostly well behaved and well meaning) to be lumped with Mr Trump (who is neither)'.
He writes: 'Bad behavior is rarely a sign of mental illness, and the mentally ill behave badly only rarely


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ists-warn.html

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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

At least the wall is going well:-

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The Mexican government has seized on Donald Trump’s problems with his border wall. Apparently emboldened by the president’s failure to squeeze money out of Congress for his pet project, the Mexican finance minister, Luis Videgaray, declared it a “hostile” plan and “absolute waste of money” that Mexico will never agree to pay for. “Under no scenario will we contribute economically to an action of this kind,” Videgaray said.

In another setback for Trump, a federal judge has blocked his attempt to cut off funding to “sanctuary cities” that refuse to cooperate with authorities trying to round up undocumented immigrants. The White House responded with typical fury.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-a-brick-wall

He wants to outsource the wall to the Chinese, they can build a great wall. Homebase have a kit, but he'd need a few of those, think of the Nectar points though Donald...
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

I think it's Canada not Mexico that's the problem now.
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Donald Trump intensifies Canadian trade dispute by placing huge import tariff on lumber
President raises duty on softwood timber by up to 24 percent - drawing swift criticism from government north of border as latest row escalates
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7701186.html
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

another story from the daily trumphater press .




The truth behind Trump’s “trade war” with Canada
Trump didn't start the fight over Canadian softwood lumber

For 35 years, the US and Canada have been locked in an endless fight about imported lumber — a cycle of tariffs and truces that has repeated itself under every president since Ronald Reagan.


http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...mber-trade-war
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another story from the daily trumphater press .
What's wrong with the story I cited? Have you read it? It goes into the background of the situation in the same way as the Vox article does. And it even includes this quote:
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It definitely could’ve been a heck of a lot worse,” Kevin Mason, managing director of ERA Forest Products Research said by phone from Kelowna, British Columbia. “I think a lot of people were bracing for a higher duty.”
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN17U0CA

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"I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump told Reuters in an interview. "This is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier."
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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another story from the daily trumphater press .




The truth behind Trump’s “trade war” with Canada
Trump didn't start the fight over Canadian softwood lumber

For 35 years, the US and Canada have been locked in an endless fight about imported lumber — a cycle of tariffs and truces that has repeated itself under every president since Ronald Reagan.


http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...mber-trade-war
Yeah but Trump hasn't sorted it out in his first 100 days as president so it's his fault and nothing to do with the likes of Clinton and Obama.

Anyway maybe Canada should just do what the some folks around here espouse with respect to the UK's negotiations with the EU and just roll over in the face of threats from over the border...
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Anyway maybe Canada should just do what the some folks around here espouse with respect to the UK's negotiations with the EU and just roll over in the face of threats from over the border...
Who's said that?
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

Well, it's 8 weeks since Trump accused Obama of a felony offence (signing off an illegal wiretap) - he still hasn't provided any evidence....
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