BBC license change to cover catchup

[General Maximus]

article on Sky News this morning about some potential new rules about BBC programme scheduling and one of the quotes from the BBC is:

"It would be odd to make it harder for people to find and watch the programmes they have already paid for"

Why am I paying for tv series that I don't wait (or entire channels)?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

Why am I paying for tv series that I don't wait (or entire channels)?

You could say that of any cable/satellite subscription. I and I suspect most, don't watch 90% of channels paid for.

The Govt. are determined to crush the BBC, slowly but surely. Pressure from their commercial pals, Murdoch, and they see it as a hotbed of socialism (Countryfile is a communist propaganda piece for sure..) Truth is, most of the decent TV is made by the BBC and repeated by other channels. One of those things that you really would be sorry if it went. Like cable/satellite it does need paying for, and doesn't thankfully have commercials. Its incredibly good value for money in comparison.

[denphone]

Yep politicians just can't keep their hands off the BBC and sadly that will be to the detriment of viewers if it is allowed to continue willy nilly.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Mr K

You could say that of any cable/satellite subscription. I and I suspect most, don't watch 90% of channels paid for.

The Govt. are determined to crush the BBC, slowly but surely. Pressure from their commercial pals, Murdoch, and they see it as a hotbed of socialism (Countryfile is a communist propaganda piece for sure..) Truth is, most of the decent TV is made by the BBC and repeated by other channels. One of those things that you really would be sorry if it went. Like cable/satellite it does need paying for, and doesn't thankfully have commercials. Its incredibly good value for money in comparison.

Most stuff is made for the BBC by independent studios. If the BBC went these studios would provide the same programming directly for commercial channels rather than having the BBC as some kind of parasitic intermediary

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Most stuff is made for the BBC by independent studios. If the BBC went these studios would provide the same programming directly for commercial channels rather than having the BBC as some kind of parasitic intermediary

I don't think the same programmes would get made without the BBC and license fee. Programmes would only get made if they attracted advertising ie. Expect a lot more reality TV, soaps and general crap.

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by Mr K

One of those things that you really would be sorry if it went.

Not really because I don't watch it at all because it hasn't got any progs on that I want to watch and I have been wanting it to go for years. Like another user said a few days ago, if the BBC channels were changed to a package/bundle option on Sky/Virgin/BT just like the Disney channels/movies etc how many people do you think would opt to pay for it? If your answer is loads of people because the BBC is awesome then that is what they should do and let it sell on it's merits.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Programmes would only get made if they attracted advertising ie. Expect a lot more reality TV, soaps and general crap.

so stuff would get made that people presumably want to watch vs all the stuff they make now that they don't want to watch (implied). The difference is that I choose to pay for Sky and yes there are many many channels that I don't watch but that is because there are a handful of channels which have everything on that I love so I still get my moneys worth out of my subscription. The difference between the BBC and everyone else is that if I decided I wasn't getting value for money from my subscription then I could cancel it, I can't do that with BBC. Even if Sky etc wasn't around I still wouldn't watch BBC because I would be watching boring dross for the sake of it.

How do you know it's boring dross if you don't watch it?

[General Maximus]

Below is a last of every tv series I have seen in it's entirety including ones I currently watch. Find me one that is on the BBC. The last time I checked (and it was 20 years ago) Buffy, Xfiles and Star Trek were on BBC2 and that is it and even then they dicked around taking them every time darts/tennis/whatever else came along but they managed to keep all the stupid gardening shows and everything else on before and after.


10.5
24
12 Monkeys
3rd Rock from the Sun
Agent Carter
Agents of Shield
Airwolf
alias
Allegiance
American Odyssey
Andromeda
Arrow
Ascension
Avatar
Babylon 5
Babylon 5 Crusade
Band of Brothers
Beauty and the Beast
Big Bang
Bionic Woman
Bitten
Black Sails
Blade
Blindspot
Boardwalk Ampire
BoP
BSG
BSG Old
Buck Rogers
Buffy
Camelot
Continuum
Criminal Minds
Crisis
Csi
Dark Angel
Dark Matter
Dead Zone
Defiance
Dexter
Dollhouse
Dominion
Dooms Day Preppers
Early Edition
Earth Final Conflict
Eleventh Hour
Eureka
Extant
Falling Skies
Fear the Walking Dead
Flash Forward
Flash Gordon
Flashpoint
Frasier
Friends
Game of Thrones
Greys Anatomy
Harpers Island
Helix
Heroes
Homeland
House
Intelligence
JAG
Jake 2.0
Jeremiah
Jericho
Joey
John Doe
Knight Rider
Kyle XY
Last Kingdom
Last Resort
Legend of Korra
Lexx
Lie to Me
Limitless
Lost
Master of Science Fiction
Minority Report
NCIS
NCIS New Orleans
New Adventures of Superman
O5
Outer Limits
Persons Unknown
Prison Break
Proof
Quantico
Quantum Leap
Relic Hunter
Revolution
Robin of Sherwood
Rome
Romeo Section
Roswell
Scorpion
SeaQuest DSV
Secret Circle
Sliders
Smallville
Space Above & Beyond
Spartacus
ST DS9
ST Enterprise
ST TNG
ST Voyager
Stalker
Standoff
Star-Crossed
Stargate Atlantis
Stargate SG1
Stargate Universe
State of Affairs
Super Volcano
Supergirl
Surface
Taken
Terminator
Terra Nova
The 100
The 4400
The Event
The Fallen
The Flash
The Last Ship
The Lost Room
The Mentalist
The Originals
The Strain
The Tomorrow People
The Triangle
The Unit
The Walking Dead
Threat Matrix
Threshold
Time Trax
True Blood
Under the Dome
V
Vampire Diaries
Vikings
War of the Worlds
West Wing
X-files
Z Nation
Zoo

Impressive list, but it didn't answer my question....

It's like someone saying they don't like (fill in food/drink of choice), but won't taste the food/drink...

[General Maximus]

I love Italian and Indian food but can't stand Chinese or Thai, that doesn't mean I have to visit a new Chinese restaurant that has just opened up. Having reviewed my list and seeing the genres I like and the level of production quality that I appreciate, find me something similar on BBC that I'll like. Dr Who doesn't count because I hate it (and have tried it).

Originally Posted by General Maximus

Below is a last of every tv series I have seen in it's entirety including ones I currently watch. Find me one that is on the BBC. The last time I checked (and it was 20 years ago) Buffy, Xfiles and Star Trek were on BBC2 and that is it and even then they dicked around taking them every time darts/tennis/whatever else came along but they managed to keep all the stupid gardening shows and everything else on before and after.

I don't like any of those shows you watch ,i want all those commercial channels to go pay per view because i don't see why i should be forced to pay for shows i don't watch .

[General Maximus]

I know I am going to regret asking this but if you don't like anything I watch then what do you watch? And don't say Eastenders and Bargain Hunt.

Originally Posted by General Maximus

I know I am going to regret asking this but if you don't like anything I watch then what do you watch? And don't say Eastenders and Bargain Hunt.

I watch lots of stuff ,my point was why should i be forced to pay for the stuff you watch

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by martyh

I don't like any of those shows you watch ,i want all those commercial channels to go pay per view because i don't see why i should be forced to pay for shows i don't watch .

Originally Posted by martyh

I watch lots of stuff ,my point was why should i be forced to pay for the stuff you watch

you aren't forced to pay for the stuff I watch, that is the point. Your subscription and channel package with Sky/Virgin is entirely optional and you can cancel it at any time. I, in contrast, don't have a choice and am legally required to pay for a service which I do not use at all. Which of the two is worse?

Originally Posted by General Maximus

you aren't forced to pay for the stuff I watch, that is the point. Your subscription and channel package with Sky/Virgin is entirely optional and you can cancel it at any time. I, in contrast, don't have a choice and am legally required to pay for a service which I do not use at all. Which of the two is worse?

Every time i buy a tin of beans or packet of cornflakes i contribute to the advertising revenue of all the commercial channels .People whining about having to pay for the BBC on the grounds of "i don't watch the channels so why should i pay" would do well to remember that even people who do not own a tv contribute to ITV ,C4,C5 etc ,you can't say the same about the BBC