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Originally Posted by martyh

Isn't philanthropy a very conservative ideal ?

No....

You must be thinking of philately.....

You know the old saying - philately will get you everywhere.

Originally Posted by Hugh

No....

You must be thinking of philately.....

You know the old saying - philately will get you everywhere.

I thought he was an Irish dancer

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by deadite66

I just thought it was ironic considering both him and his wife try to shovel as much cash as they can.

Funny how no amount of cash will buy her any class or wash the blood of his hands.

I wonder how history will speak of him in 100yrs time ?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

I wonder how history will speak of him in 100yrs time ?

I don't care to be honest i will be worm food by then. I am only interested in what i call him now.

Its not nice and i would not post it here on a family forum

Originally Posted by Sirius

I don't care to be honest i will be worm food by then. I am only interested in what i call him now.

Its not nice and i would not post it here on a family forum

I understand that .
I would hope that it is recorded that he was taken to task over the lies and had to answer for them even if only for the lives that where lost in a unnecessary and illegal war .Of course i doubt that will happen as it all seems to have been quietly swept under the carpet

Originally Posted by martyh

I understand that .
I would hope that it is recorded that he was taken to task over the lies and had to answer for them even if only for the lives that where lost in a unnecessary and illegal war .Of course i doubt that will happen as it all seems to have been quietly swept under the carpet

They are not going to do that. The talk of bring President Bush and Blair to answer for warcrimes is quite naive. It isn't, and won't the be last, military operation conducted by a military power. It's also not really akin to other people who have been brought to trial for war crimes since most of those involve some sort of intentional slaughter of civilians, including genocides.

I mean why not also add in Sierra Leone and Bosnia to the charges?

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Also comparisons to the Nazis are utterly unjustified.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by deadite66

on Newsnight Bliar was on and mentioned he was giving speeches in America on philanthropy.

Was the hypocrite in chief referring to the 'philanthropists' who're paying him so much for so little and funding his lavish lifestyle do you reckon?...

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yes imo we do have to go on about it, for the sake of all the people that died because of their lies and I hope people keep on going on about it until those responsible are held to account.



Where did he even remotely suggest that.

Thats would would have happened if we did "Nothing"

Sure it was done on the basis of a lie, but it was a good idea anyway and should have been done much earlier

Also I can think of a lot of people who should stand for War Crimes than two ELECTED leaders!

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Blair lied so that we could support America and take us into there War. We have lost good men in that war because of that lie. He should face charges and it just shows what side you have taken. I have a white feather here, Give me your address and i will send it to you.

Sirius for god sake I HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY SIDE!, I agree that Bush was a total idiot and Blair was rather flawed, alo that the Iraq and Afganistan Wars were done very badly, However those two do not deserve War Crimes charges and there a lot of of people who deserve them a lot more then those two

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Another white feather here.

I just hope that justice will eventually catch up with these liars. It cought up with most of the Nazies eventually. (Oops, Godwins law strikes)

They got rid of two of the most repressive governments in the world, would you really want women bewing repressed in Kabul and Saddam killing Kurds?

Shame they did not deal with other Dictators, like Assad, Mugabe and many many others

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Originally Posted by martyh

I wonder how history will speak of him in 100yrs time ?

The Labour version of Thatcher, some like him very much, some very much hate him, I am in the middle

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Thats would would have happened if we did "Nothing"

Sure it was done on the basis of a lie, but it was a good idea anyway and should have been done much earlier

Also I can think of a lot of people who should stand for War Crimes than two ELECTED leaders!

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Sirius for god sake I HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY SIDE!, I agree that Bush was a total idiot and Blair was rather flawed, alo that the Iraq and Afganistan Wars were done very badly, However those two do not deserve War Crimes charges and there a lot of of people who deserve them a lot more then those two

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They got rid of two of the most repressive governments in the world, would you really want women bewing repressed in Kabul and Saddam killing Kurds?

Shame they did not deal with other Dictators, like Assad, Mugabe and many many others

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The Labour version of Thatcher, some like him very much, some very much hate him, I am in the middle

Didn't you advocate the setting up of a world government and the forcing of countries into joining it? Sounds pretty dictorial to me.

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Sirius for god sake I HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY SIDE!, I agree that Bush was a total idiot and Blair was rather flawed, alo that the Iraq and Afganistan Wars were done very badly, However those two do not deserve War Crimes charges and there a lot of of people who deserve them a lot more then those two

Bush and Blair went to war for reasons other than what they told their respective electorates .There where no WMA's and never where .If as you suggest it was a good thing that we went to war to remove Saddam from power ,what gives the US or GB the authority to decide who should be in power .Do we go to war everytime a dictator or government displeases us? .

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

Didn't you advocate the setting up of a world government and the forcing of countries into joining it? Sounds pretty dictorial to me.

Where have I said that I will repress Women, LGBT and the Working people?

[Mod Edit - it is against CF Site T&C's to quote from Private Messages - repetition of this behaviour will invoke the infraction system]

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Originally Posted by martyh

Bush and Blair went to war for reasons other than what they told their respective electorates .There where no WMA's and never where .If as you suggest it was a good thing that we went to war to remove Saddam from power ,what gives the US or GB the authority to decide who should be in power .Do we go to war everytime a dictator or government displeases us? .

Yes I know that they went to war to remove Saddam, but yes that was a good thing, same we did not do it earlier and shame we did it so badly

Just Ask the Kurds and Shias

And Yes we should go to war to remove dictators and other human rights violators, starting with Syria and Bahrain

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Where have I said that I will repress Women, LGBT and the Working people?

[Mod Edit - reference to Private Message removed]

Perhaps you should read the question. Instead of making one of your own up.

Also it's not for you to repeat ANY part of a PRIVATE message. Especially as yo only quoted a small part of it.

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

And Yes we should go to war to remove dictators and other human rights violators, starting with Syria and Bahrain

That's good of you to volunteer so many people to die for your idiotic ideals
It's not up to us to decide who should run countries .

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

Perhaps you should read the question. Instead of making one of your own up.

Also it's not for you to repeat ANY part of a PRIVATE message. Especially as yo only quoted a small part of it.

You were compairing me to a dictator, so that is why I suggested some of what those types of people do