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Old 12-01-2017, 13:34   #1441
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Re: US Election 2016

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Must've have missed the bit where Buzzfeed and whoever provided any proof of anything.
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There is no proof of anything online. Hence the term "unverified".
Buzzfeed provided proof that a document containing allegations against Trump was in circulation.
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Old 12-01-2017, 13:40   #1442
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Buzzfeed provided proof that a document containing allegations against Trump was in circulation.
As I said that is NOT proof.
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Old 12-01-2017, 13:56   #1443
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Re: US Election 2016

But you are prepared to believe anything about Clinton without verifiable proof Mick ?

The more your hear about this guy the more it's scary. He's not even president yet and now lacks any credibility. One way or another this isn't going to end well.
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Old 12-01-2017, 13:59   #1444
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Re: US Election 2016

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As I said that is NOT proof.
It's clear proof that a document containing the allegations was in circulation. This answers nomadking's statement "Must've have missed the bit where Buzzfeed and whoever provided any proof of anything."
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Old 12-01-2017, 14:00   #1445
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But you are prepared to believe anything about Clinton without verifiable proof Mick ?

The more your hear about this guy the more it's scary. He's not even president yet and now lacks any credibility. One way or another this isn't going to end well.
And what about the Clintons and the Democrats has been denied, never mind comprehensively disproved?
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Old 12-01-2017, 14:06   #1446
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And what about the Clintons and the Democrats has been denied, never mind comprehensively disproved?
Here's one for you. http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-grab-crotch/
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Old 12-01-2017, 14:11   #1447
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Re: US Election 2016

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But you are prepared to believe anything about Clinton without verifiable proof Mick ?
The emails that were hacked from the DNC are proof enough for me. This so called dodgy document that's been given to Buzzfeed is a fake report fabricated by goodness knows anybody !

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The more your hear about this guy the more it's scary. He's not even president yet and now lacks any credibility. One way or another this isn't going to end well.
Nothing is set to end well in your miserable World.
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Old 12-01-2017, 14:20   #1448
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Re: US Election 2016

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The difference is....
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Another massively key difference is that they didn't just make up a written claim and leave it that, they used a photo. Not that different to Harry Hill on "You've been Framed", where he says that X does something and then shows a video of where it looks like X, but clearly isn't.

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The difference is....
Another massively key difference is that they didn't just make up a written claim and leave it that, they used a photo. Not that different to Harry Hill on "You've been Framed", where he says that X does something and then shows a video of where it looks like X, but clearly isn't.
I answered your question with an example of something about the Clintons and the Democrats that has been denied and comprehensively disproved. You can compare and contrast it to other allegations but it more than answers your request.

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This so called dodgy document that's been given to Buzzfeed is a fake report fabricated by goodness knows anybody !
We know where the report has come from "It was compiled by a former British intelligence officer with experience of Russia, who works for a private intelligence firm. His work has been regarded in the past as credible by several senior US officials, one of whom said he had “absolute trust” in him.
The former intelligence officer collaborated with another private business intelligence group working out of the US."
Subscriber link: https://www.ft.com/content/4d1c292e-...b-e7eb37a6aa8e
Google the headline: The Trump-Russia dossier: what we know so far
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Old 12-01-2017, 14:46   #1450
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I answered your question with an example of something about the Clintons and the Democrats that has been denied and comprehensively disproved. You can compare and contrast it to other allegations but it more than answers your request.
They denied something that wasn't really claimed in the first place. Big deal.

Still absolutely no evidence whatsoever included in the dossier, just wild unsubstantiated claims.
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Old 12-01-2017, 17:13   #1451
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Re: US Election 2016

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They denied something that wasn't really claimed in the first place. Big deal.

Still absolutely no evidence whatsoever included in the dossier, just wild unsubstantiated claims.
The point is though that Trump has to accept what his security agencies tell him ,he has no real choice .He is starting his presidency at odds with his security chief which is fantastic news for ISIS and every other tin pot nation with a grudge against America but rubbish for everyone else.If Clapper says his agencies did not leak the documents then Trump has to accept that or provide proof to the contrary and whilst we are talking about proof Trump has to show some proof that the 'fake news' is indeed fake ,we can't accept his denial any more than he is accepting Clappers
 
Old 12-01-2017, 18:04   #1452
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Re: US Election 2016

This is the first US election that I keep hearing "President Elect" bandied about. I'm sure I have never heard it before.
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Old 12-01-2017, 18:15   #1453
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They denied something that wasn't really claimed in the first place. Big deal.

Still absolutely no evidence whatsoever included in the dossier, just wild unsubstantiated claims.
What's in or not in the dossier is far less important than Trump alienating and demoralising the security services. Such a situation is music to the ears of America's enemies.
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Old 12-01-2017, 18:45   #1454
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What's in or not in the dossier is far less important than Trump alienating and demoralising the security services. Such a situation is music to the ears of America's enemies.
I haven't yet seen reports of Trump railing against the Security Services. The Intelligence Agencies on the other hand have a good track record. WMD's that didn't exist, Lybia, Syria etc. Those boys are at the top of their game!
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Old 12-01-2017, 19:12   #1455
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Re: US Election 2016

Calling something a dossier these days it will be subject to ridicule.
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