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Old 07-02-2012, 12:16   #61
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Re: Sky BB fibre product

Lol, fellow Edinburgher. Lol.
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Old 13-02-2012, 00:28   #62
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Sky fibre

With VM unable to or unwilling to use the FTTC system that BT Openreach are putting into streets. I have opted for Sky Broadband with the hope that come the 1st April I will be able to move up to Sky Fibre and that they will provide a better service that what BT retail seem to provide.
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Old 13-02-2012, 18:40   #63
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Re: Sky BB fibre product

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At Last, Fast Sky Boradband!
What makes you think it will be any better than BT or Virgin?

BT will purposely undercut the service for Sky/Easynet, just so that BT will remain more cost effective and faster for marketing purposes.
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Re: Sky BB fibre product

He didn't say it would be - he simply said "At Last, Fast Sky Boradband! (sic)".
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Old 13-02-2012, 20:42   #65
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With VM unable to or unwilling to use the FTTC system that BT Openreach are putting into streets.
It's neither as far as I'm aware. But with anything, it has to work commercially.

But Virgin are looking at it http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...p/489677#M8114

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I don't know where the confusion has arisen over this but I've checked with our National Broadband team and we are not currently offering FTTC with National Broadband. We are looking into this however and as soon as we have news on this we'll post an announcement
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Old 14-02-2012, 16:53   #66
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It's neither as far as I'm aware. But with anything, it has to work commercially.

But Virgin are looking at it http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...p/489677#M8114
The money spent leasing BT's equipment and network may well be better spent expanding the existing cable network to streets missed out and new builds and in non-cabled areas like Aberdeen, perhaps the Fujitsu project could help with that.

As for Milton Keynes, the existing Cable network needs a lot of work and the way BT has set it up is very clever to the point where Ofcom is finding it hard to intervene as it is part of BT Global services, a business which is deemed as commercial and non-pre dominant like Openreach. I don't understand why NTL took over the Milton Keynes and Westminster areas in the first place
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What makes you think it will be any better than BT or Virgin?

BT will purposely undercut the service for Sky/Easynet, just so that BT will remain more cost effective and faster for marketing purposes.
Virgin still has the best Broadband in the UK!

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The money spent leasing BT's equipment and network may well be better spent expanding the existing cable network to streets missed out and new builds and in non-cabled areas like Aberdeen, perhaps the Fujitsu project could help with that.

As for Milton Keynes, the existing Cable network needs a lot of work and the way BT has set it up is very clever to the point where Ofcom is finding it hard to intervene as it is part of BT Global services, a business which is deemed as commercial and non-pre dominant like Openreach. I don't understand why NTL took over the Milton Keynes and Westminster areas in the first place
Could they upgrade and reativate the Cable Networks in the Isle of Dogs, Barbican and Aberdeen?

Could they also puchase the BT Cable Networks in Milton Keynes and Wesmister?

Would you also mind explain to me in more detail about the Fujitsu project (I know is a IPTV serivce, but not much elise)?
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Virgin has the worst Broadband in the UK!
This isn't about your personal grudge against VM. So leave the childish comments out of it.

All you do is join any thread that says anything good about VM, to start slagging them off.

I have had problems with VM in the past, just as many people have had problems with the bigger companies. However VM are the best of a bad bunch (at the moment).
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This isn't about your personal grudge against VM. So leave the childish comments out of it.

All you do is join any thread that says anything good about VM, to start slagging them off.

I have had problems with VM in the past, just as many people have had problems with the bigger companies. However VM are the best of a bad bunch (at the moment).
They also have the fastest broadband, also VM is not as bad as NTL was!
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Old 17-02-2012, 12:52   #71
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This isn't about your personal grudge against VM. So leave the childish comments out of it.

All you do is join any thread that says anything good about VM, to start slagging them off.

I have had problems with VM in the past, just as many people have had problems with the bigger companies. However VM are the best of a bad bunch (at the moment).
Thanks for picking on me. I was only trying to point out the idiocy of his statement to begin with, by making one just as easily unfounded and unqualified.

That said, if you'd bothered to read my other posts you'll see how OFCOM's supposedly impartial figures for the goverment show VM do have the worst jitter latency and packet loss in the UK. Quoting impartial national figures is not a personal grudge, and I challenge you to produce any evidence that it is. Otherwise, shut your ignorant mouth and stop with your personal grudge against me.
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What makes you think it will be any better than BT or Virgin?

BT will purposely undercut the service for Sky/Easynet, just so that BT will remain more cost effective and faster for marketing purposes.
Do forget BT retail is different to BT Openreach. BT retail staff are mostly in India; whilst most of Sky's staff are in scotland; and BT Openreach staff are in holes in the ground or up-a-pole.
BT openreach should not be giving BT retail any preference over anyother telecoms co.
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BT Openreach staff are in holes in the ground or up-a-pole.
BT openreach should not be giving BT retail any preference over anyother telecoms co.
Hahaha. Apparently for my install yesterday there were five Openreach staff sitting at a cab twiddling their thumbs for a couple of hours waiting for a phone line that'll never be used to get wired up at the exchange.

Still, I commend their efforts though, good bunch of staff they were.
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They also have the fastest broadband, also VM is not as bad as NTL was!
That's open for debate. NTL's customers service was terrible, but at least they didn't have overseas call centres. So now if you get a UK call centre, then you get a better service than NTL, but if you get an overseas call centre then you get worse.

Some people may get signal problems occasionally, as I did. But once I had reported it, an engineer came out, and within a couple of weeks the whole area had a far better service.

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Thanks for picking on me. I was only trying to point out the idiocy of his statement to begin with, by making one just as easily unfounded and unqualified.

That said, if you'd bothered to read my other posts you'll see how OFCOM's supposedly impartial figures for the goverment show VM do have the worst jitter latency and packet loss in the UK. Quoting impartial national figures is not a personal grudge, and I challenge you to produce any evidence that it is. Otherwise, shut your ignorant mouth and stop with your personal grudge against me.
I think you need to lower your tone a bit, and stop being abusive
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I think you need to lower your tone a bit, and stop being abusive
I think you should start by looking at yourself first and stop being an ignorant hypocrite. All you do is join any thread where I state the truth then slag me off and start crying as soon as I return the favour.
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