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Old 28-06-2012, 00:16   #1411
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.

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Polls on this and other such forums? Those responding would be a self selecting sample and not representative of the customer base as a whole.

I personally don't know anyone who uses/ used reminders on V+
Reminders were great on a busy sporting saturday. I could chill and watch less important sports safe in the knowledge that when the live stuff I really wanted to watch was due the Vplus box would change channel. Why would anyone want to record live sport to watch later?

When you are in that is!
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Old 28-06-2012, 00:23   #1412
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.

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Reminders were great on a busy sporting saturday. I could chill and watch less important sports safe in the knowledge that when the live stuff I really wanted to watch was due the Vplus box would change channel. Why would anyone want to record live sport to watch later?

When you are in that is!
That's what many of us do .... as long as they schedule live sporting events to coincide with putting children to bed

It has the added bonus of being able to fast forward through the half time ***** when trying to catch up
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Old 28-06-2012, 00:59   #1413
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That's what many of us do .... as long as they schedule live sporting events to coincide with putting children to bed

It has the added bonus of being able to fast forward through the half time ***** when trying to catch up
Must admit I do the same for most non sports programmes. Saves time not watching the ads. If I did that with sports though I would never know if it was safe to read a text!
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Old 28-06-2012, 01:20   #1414
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Which is why Tivo would be a boost, being able to record 3 things and watch a fourth at the same time.
Exactly. And yet people still want reminders

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Reminders were great on a busy sporting saturday. I could chill and watch less important sports safe in the knowledge that when the live stuff I really wanted to watch was due the Vplus box would change channel. Why would anyone want to record live sport to watch later?
No-one has said "record live sport to watch later"; ever. Just record everything and then, when you're done watching whatever it is, or when the sporting event starts recording (you'll see the red light come on) you start watching that. It's not difficult and does not require any additional programming.

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Must admit I do the same for most non sports programmes. Saves time not watching the ads.
And that's exactly what I have done for the last ten years
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Old 28-06-2012, 01:35   #1415
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.

I always record programmes that have adverts in, as it saves a lot of time missing the adverts. Although I do try to watch HD stuff live, or as soon after recording as I can as I find the HD stuff takes up a lot of room.

I recorded a 1 hour HD programme last week, and it took up 3 normal hours of recording space.
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Old 28-06-2012, 10:49   #1416
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Which would work if I had a recording slot free, but normally the only time I use a reminder is when I have 2 things recording at the same time. Which is why Tivo would be a boost, being able to record 3 things and watch a fourth at the same time.
But you can't record 3 things and watch a 4th though - if you are recording 3 things you have to watch one of the things being recorded - there are only 3 tuners in the box.

Unless of course you are referring to recording 3 VM channels and wathing a fourth through freeview / sky etc

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That one actually did require a technical fix.
Ok, my bad - apologies for the missunderstanding, I made an assumption that as the licencing was stopping you from showing the Sky PIP and that the other PIP worked fine it was just switched on during the update. If there was also a fix required I now stand corrected


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As Ben says, the MRS software is ready to go and has been since last year. Enabling it isn't tied to a new software update.
This was tied into my missundestanding of the above - I'm aware the MRS is ready to go as soon as VM decide to turn it on. As I thought the Sky PIP was delayed untill the update after the licenceing was resolved (unaware a fix was also needed), I just thought VM might be doing the same with MRS.


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But how do you separate those who know what they are doing from those who only think they do?
I'm absolutly no technical or networking expert, however I dont think in this case its about those who 'only think' they know what their doing. As it stands at the moment, some people are in a position to simply plug each Tivo into their Hub as they have either Cat5/6 available (or are prepared to use Homeplugs) - and some arn't. If VM are working on a solution for those who arn't that's great, but I dont see why this should be a cause to keep it disabled for those who can.

Not trying to start an arguement - clearly VM are the ones who decide, it's just frustrating for such great functionality to be disabled as VM dont think we are capable of using it... (Of course - we have no idea yet if the licencing is resolved, and I completly understand that it will be dissabled at least until this - don't suppose you can shed any light on this at all can you Spiderplant? )

Anyway - thanks for the info - clearly I was wrong in some of my previous assumptions.

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Old 28-06-2012, 10:54   #1417
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.

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If VM are working on a solution for those who arn't that's great, but I dont see why this should be a cause to keep it disabled for those who can.
Because even those who can will still phone Virgin if it doesn't work properly.

And then it also means that some customers have a better TiVo service than others - which is hardly fair
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Old 28-06-2012, 11:00   #1418
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But you can't record 3 things and watch a 4th though - if you are recording 3 things you have to watch one of the things being recorded - there are only 3 tuners in the box.
I assume that's what the OP meant
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Old 28-06-2012, 11:31   #1419
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Of course - we have no idea yet if the licencing is resolved, and I completly understand that it will be dissabled at least until this - don't suppose you can shed any light on this at all can you Spiderplant?
Sorry, I only deal with technical stuff.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.

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A self-selecting group of less than a couple of hundred people does not mean that it is wanted by the majority of customers.

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Nice!

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Which is what Tivo has done from the very beginning.

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If all tuners are in use (excluding suggestions) then it would have to stop recording something which kinda defeats the purpose
So, are you saying that if it processes a reminder, it will switch to the channel and record the programme and stop recording something else to enable it to do this if necessary?
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Old 28-06-2012, 11:49   #1421
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If all tuners are in use (excluding suggestions) then it would have to stop recording something which kinda defeats the purpose
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So, are you saying that if it processes a reminder, it will switch to the channel and record the programme and stop recording something else to enable it to do this if necessary?
Yes - if all tuners are in use.

Even if it didn't record the reminder, it would still have to stop recording something else.

Remember the V+HD had/s a dedicated live tuner, so reminders were independent of whatever was set to record

TiVo has 3 recording tuners, so if they are all in use, then it has to stop one of them to change to another channel. By reminding on a set recording, it avoids a clash.
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Yes - if all tuners are in use.

Even if it didn't record the reminder, it would still have to stop recording something else.

Remember the V+HD had/s a dedicated live tuner, so reminders were independent of whatever was set to record

TiVo has 3 recording tuners, so if they are all in use, then it has to stop one of them to change to another channel. By reminding on a set recording, it avoids a clash.
OK bottom line is this. If the worst comes to the worst. I use the reminder so I could switch the TV to freeview.
At the moment on the rare occasions when it is a problem ie for some reason 3 record ( over lap is the main cause but would hate to miss start/ finish so will not remove) We use the Video sender from the V+ to main TV. However when the reminder comes the idea is simply to switch to Freeview. Hence DO NOT want the TiVo to think for me Or ( never happen yet but who knows) record 5 at the same time & watch number 6 !!!
Can`t control V+ via remote so might as well have freeview running ( with a delay to skip ads etc) instead of using V+ or reverse of cause.
The problem of so many people at home all wanting different shows but the same sofa
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