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Old 05-10-2017, 15:48   #61
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Re: Catalonia Independence

The US, French, German, and UK Governments haven't condemned the Spanish Police violence either - I look forward to Rod Liddle's opinion piece on them.
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Old 05-10-2017, 15:48   #62
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Re: Riot police in stand off as illegal Catalonia independence vote begins

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This is going to get even more nasty very soon...

More News coming from Reuters: Spanish Constitutional Court has suspended The Catalan Parliament Session, which had been planned for Monday...
Joyous. I'm not sure they actually have much choice but to follow their laws. This is a political, not legal, problem and needs political solutions.
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Re: Catalonia Independence

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Fascistic tendencies...

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Re: Catalonia Independence

The decision where independence would be binding with a simple majority, without requiring a minimum turnout can only lead to violence. Imposing such a radical & structural change on *all* of the region's population in such a way is folly of highest order.
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Re: Catalonia Independence

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The decision where independence would be binding with a simple majority, without requiring a minimum turnout can only lead to violence. Imposing such a radical & structural change on *all* of the region's population in such a way is folly of highest order.
You've a point. Only the UK is allowed to have major constitutional changes decided by referendums explicitly listed as non-binding with no turnout or super-majority requirement.

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Old 05-10-2017, 16:10   #66
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Re: Catalonia Independence

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Having spent years complaining about EU 'meddling in state affairs' Rod Liddle suddenly decides the EU should meddle in state affairs.

Cynical, opportunistic. Rod Liddle is no more credible on the EU than Jean-Claude Juncker and both should be treated with disdain as extremists.
I don't think it's as clear cut as you are positing Igni.

There are many that like him (and myself) think that the EU does meddle in state affairs but with what has happened with Catalonia it now appears as "selective" meddling.

Everything that the EU does appears as "Selective" and purely to further it's own aims.
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Old 05-10-2017, 16:36   #67
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Re: Catalonia Independence

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good article very credible the truth maybe painful but there it is .
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Re: Catalonia Independence

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I don't think it's as clear cut as you are positing Igni.

There are many that like him (and myself) think that the EU does meddle in state affairs
Okay, would you be able to provide some examples where the EU has meddled in state affairs outside of its fields of competence or treaties?
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Re: Catalonia Independence

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Okay, would you be able to provide some examples where the EU has meddled in state affairs outside of its fields of competence or treaties?
To be honest I think everything is outside its field of competence.
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Re: Catalonia Independence

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Having spent years complaining about EU 'meddling in state affairs' Rod Liddle suddenly decides the EU should meddle in state affairs.

Cynical, opportunistic. Rod Liddle is no more credible on the EU than Jean-Claude Juncker and both should be treated with disdain as extremists.
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Re: Catalonia Independence

No one wants to touch it basically. We for example hardly want to 1) boost a secessionist movement and 2) annoy a major EU government right now.
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Re: Catalonia Independence

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Fascistic tendencies...

German led EU

hmmmmmmm........
Nah, it can't happen. The EU will sort it all out.
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Re: Catalonia Independence

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41518575

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Sabadell, the Barcelona-based bank, said it will move its legal base out of Catalonia following threats by the region's leaders to declare independence.
Spain's fifth-biggest bank said it would start the process on Friday to move its legal domicile to Alicante.
Its headquarters and employees will remain in Barcelona.
The board of CaixaBank will meet on Friday to consider a similar move, Reuters reported.
Caixa is Spain's third-largest bank and accounts for about half of Catalonia's banking sector.
This could just be the start..
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Re: Catalonia Independence

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41518575


This could just be the start..
Indeed. Legally tricky, ignoring the politics, etc.

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Thanks for posting this by the way. I've had a look at another couple of pieces of his on the EU. It's astounding how authoritatively someone who clearly has no idea what they're talking about can write. The predictions he makes haven't aged well.
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Re: Catalonia Independence

i heard on the grapevine that remainers are planning a breakaway state within the UK aptly named Little Lick spittle
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