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Old 11-10-2017, 18:15   #2221
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

And on that note this man who Sarah Sanders informs is a huge fan of the second amendment starts openly threatening the press for publication of stories he doesn't like.

https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/...License-140503

I stop short of using the 'f' word as it's a bit much but this stuff is in that ballpark.
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Old 11-10-2017, 19:32   #2222
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Perhaps they should get their stories correct then. Sick of the biased BS news coming from certain quarters. CNN, NYT. etc.

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Hereís the Telegraphís take on this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...thout-meeting/
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Old 11-10-2017, 20:28   #2223
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That's entirely down to MPs.
Which accusations did he make that were false? That Trump is racist and sexist is hardly an accusation it's a statement of fact. I may well have missed other things.
Impartiality, is in the job description for the Speaker of the House because:
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Old 11-10-2017, 21:27   #2224
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Impartiality, is in the job description for the Speaker of the House because:
He was being impartial.

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Perhaps they should get their stories correct then. Sick of the biased BS news coming from certain quarters. CNN, NYT. etc.
So we're okay with state controlled media if we don't like what the free press is saying?

I'm pretty tired with the propaganda Fox News, RT or Press TV pump out but wouldn't be happy with them being threatened by a head of state. I don't recall Barack Obama threatening Fox even as they pimped the birther movement.
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He was being impartial.

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So we're okay with state controlled media if we don't like what the free press is saying?

I'm pretty tired with the propaganda Fox News, RT or Press TV pump out but wouldn't be happy with them being threatened by a head of state. I don't recall Barack Obama threatening Fox even as they pimped the birther movement.
No to your question. But the constant negative press on the same topic, day in, day out because they cannot get over Hillary losing is becoming silly. Even independent analysis showed, CNN, NBC, NYT & WashingtonPost coverage of Trump is around 90% Negative coverage. We get they don’t like Trump, but there must be other worthy news?

The Birther row was also pimped by Clinton’s Ardent Supporters, who had no problem using it, back when Hillary ran in 2008 Elections against Obama.
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No to your question. But the constant negative press on the same topic, day in, day out because they cannot get over Hillary losing is becoming silly. Even independent analysis showed, CNN, NBC, NYT & WashingtonPost coverage of Trump is around 90% Negative coverage. We get they donít like Trump, but there must be other worthy news?

The Birther row was also pimped by Clintonís Ardent Supporters, who had no problem using it, back when Hillary ran in 2008 Elections against Obama.
Fake News.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...lary-clinton-/
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And have you ever considered that the coverage of Trump is 90% negative because Iíd all the negative things he does?
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Fake News.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...lary-clinton-/

And have you ever considered that the coverage of Trump is 90% negative because Iíd all the negative things he does?
I suspect the unsourced 90% figure could be more fake news too.
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No itís not fake News. Her Supporters pushed that out.

Supporters, not campaign team being the key difference here in what I said

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And have you ever considered that the coverage of Trump is 90% negative because Iíd all the negative things he does?
He has not done anything that negative that justifies such a high % of negative coverage that Iím aware of. It is just stupid hysteria. He is the democratically elected President that beat the one who was favourite to win.
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No itís not fake News. Her Supporters pushed that out.

Supporters, not campaign team being the key difference here in what I said
According to the fact-checking website cited by Hugh, some of Hillary's supporters used it the last time she ran for President. That was in 2016. You stated that they used it back in 2008.
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According to the fact-checking website cited by Hugh, some of Hillary's supporters used it the last time she ran for President. That was in 2016. You stated that they used it back in 2008.
And I was right in what I said!

The fact checking info was written during 2016 Election.

So Er, yeah last election from that time would have been 2008 when she was against Obama. Not hard you know.
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According to the fact-checking website cited by Hugh, some of Hillary's supporters used it the last time she ran for President. That was in 2016. You stated that they used it back in 2008.
Really? From the fact-checking website.

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It was in 2008 the birther stuff started
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He has not done anything that negative that justifies such a high % of negative coverage that I’m aware of. It is just stupid hysteria. He is the democratically elected President that beat the one who was favourite to win.
Again, yes, he won. That he won has nothing to do with his performance so far, which has been banal, or the manner in which he has conducted himself which has also been banal.

I entirely agree he's getting a hard time. He may wish to try and avoid blatantly lying and getting some medication to control his narcissism and his temper so that he doesn't constantly make such an ass of himself with such regularity.

Under normal circumstances such people are perhaps mocked a little. That he is the democratically elected President is exactly why he receives that hard time he does.

If he shuts his mouth, gets off Twitter, stops kicking off fights with his own party, stops insulting people and behaves like an adult who knows, perhaps he'll have more on his achievement list than a variety of executive orders, many of which are being legally challenged, having Sean Hannity as his head sycophant, and his ability to soak up the adoration of his cult at rallies.

The man is at very least strongly authoritarian, unable to handle criticism, unable to take on board other viewpoints and unable to make fact-based decisions. He is utterly inappropriate for his office without extensive delegation of powers, and much of the power he has delegated has been delegated to those appointed based on nepotism, not merit.

If the man can't handle the job, and it's abundantly clear he can't given the amount of public release valves he needs, he should resign. I despise the idea of President Pence as his beliefs are anathema to me for the most part, but most of all because he may actually be competent enough to implement some of his agenda, but Trump is of no benefit to anyone besides as a figurehead for the extreme and the ignorant taken in by his lies. The US are the only superpower right now and it's their job to provide stability to the world. They can't do that with a leader that is so utterly unstable and erratic. One whose biggest achievement has been to divide his own nation like never before.

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And I was right in what I said!

The fact checking info was written during 2016 Election.

So Er, yeah last election from that time would have been 2008 when she was against Obama. Not hard you know.
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The US are the only superpower right now and it's their job to provide stability to the world. They can't do that with a leader that is so utterly unstable and erratic. One whose biggest achievement has been to divide his own nation like never before.
I am pretty sure that divide already existed before though.
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