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Old 27-08-2017, 01:06   #2086
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

I can't believe Trump's tweets tonight. In one post he says

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Wonderful coordination between Federal, State and Local Governments in the Great State of Texas - TEAMWORK! Record setting rainfall.
and then a short while afterwards posts this!

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It's almost like the United States has no President - we are a rudderless ship heading for a major disaster. Good luck everyone!
He's supposed to be the rudder FFS!

Apologies to The Donald, my bad the second quote was actually a tweet from 2014 retweeted by someone else.

I'm off to bed!

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Old 27-08-2017, 22:10   #2087
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Apologies to The Donald, my bad the second quote was actually a tweet from 2014 retweeted by someone else.
I'm sure 'the Donald' will sleep easier now he knows he has your apologies

Maybe he and the Texas oil barons will take climate change a bit more seriously now they know it might affect their profits/families and that being rich won't protect them. Too late of course, I fear we might be past the point of being able to do anything.
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Old 27-08-2017, 22:42   #2088
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

I read a largely US bass players forum. The views of President Trump there are interesting.

A couple of the articles posted from the last couple of pages of their politics thread, pasted here with minimal comment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.2f7fb9fe6695

https://static.currentaffairs.org/20...il-this-man-is

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-advise...because-655709 <<< Gives away the timing of the pardon a tad.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...hemming-241392

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-adv...091246640.html << Yikes

http://fortune.com/2017/08/26/trump-...dvisors-resign

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Old 27-08-2017, 23:05   #2089
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I read capacity could fit up to 19,000 in the Phoenix Convention Centre.

Thousands were turned away and were still outside queuing to get in as the rally was wrapping up.

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President Donald Trump indicated he spoke to about 15,000 people inside the Phoenix Convention Center at his rally Tuesday evening.

City of Phoenix spokeswoman Julie Watters on Thursday morning said that many people showed up for the rally but not all were able to enter.

"I can confirm the overall number of people who came to the rally was approximately 15,000, Watters said in an email. "There were more than 10,000 inside and there were approximately between 4,500 to 5,000 outside who were turned away because the event was wrapping up."

The Phoenix Police Department had previously confirmed that at least another 5,000 people were outside, although the ratio of Trump protesters and supporters was unclear.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...sts/594732001/
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

Yes. During the speech he said this :
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"This was the scene of my first rally speech. Right? The crowds were so big, almost as big as tonight."
This is false. That first rally was at the venue the fire department referred to. The Trump tweet may also be an old one. Don't know.

I would hope that's what was being referred to though stirring is probably more likely given the timing.

I've no idea why some people muddy the waters. Trump lies clearly and blatantly quite often enough, that rally speech was a stream of them, to allow him to be picked up on without inaccurate memes.
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Bush Jr was damaged by his handling of Katrina. Trump's handling of this disaster in Houston will be equally telling I feel. He will be judged ..
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Old 28-08-2017, 11:17   #2092
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Yes. During the speech he said this :


This is false. That first rally was at the venue the fire department referred to. The Trump tweet may also be an old one. Don't know.

I would hope that's what was being referred to though stirring is probably more likely given the timing.

I've no idea why some people muddy the waters. Trump lies clearly and blatantly quite often enough, that rally speech was a stream of them, to allow him to be picked up on without inaccurate memes.
I look at this in another way. Trumps critics, (and he has many) would argue that with his ego and need for large crowds of support, there is no way he would select a venue that has less than a 5,000 people capacity.

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Bush Jr was damaged by his handling of Katrina. Trump's handling of this disaster in Houston will be equally telling I feel. He will be judged ..
Governor of Texas has issued praise towards Trump. Trump was very quick to declare the hurricane a disaster, which in turn releases federal funding and additional emergency resources. Trump has also announced that he is also visiting Texas tomorrow to assess damage himself.

President Bush Jr. viewed the damage left by Katrina from a window on Air Force One and allowed the Press to take a photo of him doing it. It was a PR disaster for him, as it gave the impression he was 'disconnected and distant' from the damage far below him.
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

I am not sure of the point of these tweets by Trump yesterday, when he should be focusing on one of the biggest natural disasters to hit the USA

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With Mexico being one of the highest crime Nations in the world, we must have THE WALL. Mexico will pay for it through reimbursement/other.
This was just after the Mexican Government had offered to help with supplies and personnel, just as they did after Katrina.

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A great book by a great guy, highly recommended!
Promoting a book by one of his supporters on a day like yesterday?
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I am not sure of the point of these tweets by Trump yesterday, when he should be focusing on one of the biggest natural disasters to hit the USA
Did you miss the bit about the praise from the Governor of Texas for the Presidents response ?

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“I’ve got to tell you, I give FEMA a grade of A+, all the way from the president down,” Abbott said. “I’ve spoken to the president several times, to his Cabinet members, such as secretary of homeland security, such as the administrator of FEMA, such as Tom Price, the secretary of health and human services.”

“All across the board, from the White House to the federal administration to FEMA, they’ve been very helpful,” Abbott said.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...-meets-tweets/

I saw in a news clip the Texas Governor says Trump has said in a phone call, "Whatever you need, you've got."

And as I said above, the President is visiting area tomorrow.

So, I'm confused Hugh, what precisely do you want the President to focus on, that he already hasn't?
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Did you miss the bit about the praise from the Governor of Texas for the Presidents response ?



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...-meets-tweets/

I saw in a news clip the Texas Governor says Trump has said in a phone call, "Whatever you need, you've got."

And as I said above, the President is visiting area tomorrow.

So, I'm confused Hugh, what precisely do you want the President to focus on, that he already hasn't?
He should appoint a Minister for Precipitation to stop the rain.

Having successfully downgraded the hurricane to a tropical storm, it's time to delegate the simpler stuff.
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Bush Jr was damaged by his handling of Katrina. Trump's handling of this disaster in Houston will be equally telling I feel. He will be judged ..
Judged to have done a good job or at least better than Bush handled Katrina, although it's hard to see how he could've handled it worse admittedly. There's plenty to criticise the Donald for without looking for stuff in the midst of a disaster.
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Did you miss the bit about the praise from the Governor of Texas for the Presidents response ?



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...-meets-tweets/

I saw in a news clip the Texas Governor says Trump has said in a phone call, "Whatever you need, you've got."

And as I said above, the President is visiting area tomorrow.

So, I'm confused Hugh, what precisely do you want the President to focus on, that he already hasn't?
But why attack the Mexican Government when they have just offered to help with the floods, and why pimp a book during a catastrophe?

Neither of those things are relevant to the ongoing disaster, so why not stay focused on that?
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I cannot understand what more his opponents want him to do.

He signed a disaster proclamation (possibly quicker than any other President) as soon as the Governor of Texas appraised him of the situation and need.

This released vital funds and support from Federal agencies to both the state and counties within.
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I cannot understand what more his opponents want him to do.

He signed a disaster proclamation (possibly quicker than any other President) as soon as the Governor of Texas appraised him of the situation and need.

This released vital funds and support from Federal agencies to both the state and counties within.
Maybe by not pulling out of the Paris Climate Change Accord? The US isn't immune from the affects of climate change, time 'Trump & chums' realised that.
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Maybe by not pulling out of the Paris Climate Change Accord? The US isn't immune from the affects of climate change, time 'Trump & chums' realised that.
Trump offered to renegotiate it's terms Macron and Merkel said no way, btw who put these two in charge ?

As for Paris Accord, he did not agree other countries like China were still permitted to partake in heavily polluting activities, way in to the agreement and USA cannot do the same, why should China be allowed to continue to do as it pleases?

This is why he pulled out of the Accord because he felt the terms were unfair on the US and not to mention about 20+ Republican Senators actually urged him to pull out of the agreement.
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