[Updated] New petrol & diesel car sales banned from 2030

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

it's not just lampposts it's the cable that feed them the substations that provide the power etc.. in short the whole infrastructure would need upgrading to cope with the extra load so digging up every street .

Yeah, that's going to be really cheap and easy to install and maintain properly isn't it. lol

It's perfectly obvious that this thing hasn't been thought through and who's going to wind up paying the bill one way or the other? Cheap electric cars and transport for the masses? Yeah right!

Considering that most commuters (who use cars) travel between 10 and 100 miles per day, why not just charge them at home at night?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Considering that most commuters (who use cars) travel between 10 and 100 miles per day, why not just charge them at home at night?

But how do you do that if you live in a flat or a terraced house for example with no parking close enough to allow it? Yes, it's not difficult if you have off road parking close to your house but there's precious little of that in London.

[oliver1948uk]

According to THIShttps://www.smmt.co.uk/2017/06/electric-buses-london/ 36 electric buses going into service in London next year will run all day on an overnight charge.

Some existing routes boost the charge wirelessly at the terminus from apparatus under the tarmac. Presumably car parks and even roads where cars park could be so equipped. Perhaps people could pre pay a meter in their vehicle by credit card.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

According to THIShttps://www.smmt.co.uk/2017/06/electric-buses-london/ 36 electric buses going into service in London next year will run all day on an overnight charge.

Some existing routes boost the charge wirelessly at the terminus from apparatus under the tarmac. Presumably car parks and even roads where cars park could be so equipped. Perhaps people could pre pay a meter in their vehicle by credit card.

All possible no doubt but how much is all that going to cost and how long would it take? ££££££££'s

Local councils can't even keep up with repairing potholes let alone relaying entire roads nationwide with the necessary gubbins and what happens when utilities guy wants to dig up the road?

Well they have 20+ years to do it. Car manufacturers are moving to electric engines so either we get with it or we thrown up our hands and say it can't be done.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Taf

We're talking many amperes per hour for cars, not milliamperes for phones. The magnet field would he lethal to anyone with a pacemaker. Hmmm and passing cyclists and prams would get dragged onto the road....

So no chance for me then with my ICD.

[figgyburn]

Not sure if it has been mentioned but, imagine the fun the toerags will have pulling all the plugs from cars late at night if you have to plug them into lamposts by cable to charge for the people who do not have garages and drive ins.Walk out in the morning dead battery!.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by figgyburn

Not sure if it has been mentioned but, imagine the fun the toerags will have pulling all the plugs from cars late at night if you have to plug them into lamposts by cable to charge for the people who do not have garages and drive ins.Walk out in the morning dead battery!.

but we've got 20 years to change the toerags into angels

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by figgyburn

Not sure if it has been mentioned but, imagine the fun the toerags will have pulling all the plugs from cars late at night if you have to plug them into lamposts by cable to charge for the people who do not have garages and drive ins.Walk out in the morning dead battery!.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

but we've got 20 years to change the toerags into angels

A link has already been posted on induction charging which exists now. There's plenty of time to develop. The motor industry will be beavering away.

Originally Posted by denphone

So no chance for me then with my ICD.

Ahhh, every cloud....

[papa smurf]

just a thought what happens if we get another government in the future that is pro petrol and diesel engined cars .

say in a few years the uk petrol head party form a government

Originally Posted by figgyburn

Not sure if it has been mentioned but, imagine the fun the toerags will have pulling all the plugs from cars late at night if you have to plug them into lamposts by cable to charge for the people who do not have garages and drive ins.Walk out in the morning dead battery!.

Typically the charger won't come out if the car is locked.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

Typically the charger won't come out if the car is locked.

... and chavs won't dare go running around tugging at them any more than they smash up bus shelters...

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

given the national grid teeters on the brink of not been able to cope with present demand what will happen when millions of cars are plugged in charging , remember petrol and diesel have huge amounts of energy stored in them and do not feed off the grid

How much energy in… Cars
kWh
1 litre Petrol 9.7
1 litre Diesel 10.7
1 litre Biodiesel 9.9
1 litre Kerosene 10.5

Some guy worked it out to 20 extra power station would be needed.

TBH buy then I'll be 71, so will be on my last car.

I will NEVER own a electric car in my current home.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

just a thought what happens if we get another government in the future that is pro petrol and diesel engined cars .

say in a few years the uk petrol head party form a government

Jeremy Clarkson P.M.