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Old 20-06-2017, 10:39   #1621
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Mexico have got a nice new line in Trump bog roll. Do you think Sainsbury's stock it ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...tness-without/
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A Mexican businessman offended by President Donald Trump's insults to his countrymen is seizing on a possible oversight in the magnate's branding plans.

Corporate lawyer Antonio Battaglia is introducing "Trump" brand toilet paper, marketed under the slogans "Softness without borders" and "This is the wall that, yes, we will pay for."
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Mexico have got a nice new line in Trump bog roll. Do you think Sainsbury's stock it ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...tness-without/
Disappointed. Went to Sainsburys, no Trump bog roll
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Seems the Donalds invite has been quietly forgotten, no mention in Queenie's speech. We don't want him and he doesn't want to come. Threats of a bare bottomed protest may have put him off, it would have given me pause for thought....
http://globalnews.ca/news/3518112/do...n-bum-protest/
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Seems the Donalds invite has been quietly forgotten, no mention in Queenie's speech. We don't want him and he doesn't want to come. Threats of a bare bottomed protest may have put him off, it would have given me pause for thought....
http://globalnews.ca/news/3518112/do...n-bum-protest/
I'm sure that the Trumpster's biggest defenders will be wondering how to respond to that, given their slightly desperate denials of the many earlier reports in the media.

What's more significant is that American industry now realises that Trump is pretty powerless so it can continue its existing strategies and ignore any adverse tweets from him. For example, Ford will now make the Focus not in Mexico, not in the US...but in China.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...2019-exec.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40345592
https://www.rt.com/usa/393298-ford-f...-trump-mexico/
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The Government has said the trip is 'still going to happen' but the fact it's not listed as a state visit this year probably means it's later in his term. That's more keeping with historical precedent anyway, it wasn't normal to offer the visit in his first year but was clearly to designed to help with any trade deal. A plan I always thought was nonsense because years of work could be undone by a early morning Tweet from the man himself lambasting the UK or the deal.

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The Government has said the trip is 'still going to happen' but the fact it's not listed as a state visit this year probably means it's later in his term. That's more keeping with historical precedent anyway, it wasn't normal to offer the visit in his first year but was clearly to designed to help with any trade deal. A plan I always thought was nonsense because years of work could be undone by a early morning Tweet from the man himself lambasting the UK or the deal.
It had been pencilled in for October 2017 but clearly won't happen then, if at all.
http://www.politico.eu/article/trump...ctober-report/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/306425...it-before-him/
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It had been pencilled in for October 2017 but clearly won't happen then, if at all.
http://www.politico.eu/article/trump...ctober-report/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/306425...it-before-him/
The first link suggests it might not be a State Visit. That would allow him to come this year and explain it not being in the speech.
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I'm sure that the Trumpster's biggest defenders will be wondering how to respond to that, given their slightly desperate denials of the many earlier reports in the media.

What's more significant is that American industry now realises that Trump is pretty powerless so it can continue its existing strategies and ignore any adverse tweets from him. For example, Ford will now make the Focus not in Mexico, not in the US...but in China.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...2019-exec.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40345592
https://www.rt.com/usa/393298-ford-f...-trump-mexico/
What is there to wonder ? Apart from it being another, boring let's get another opportunity to bash Trump with less than an accurate account of what's really going on.

And nothing desperate about my earlier responses to media reports as I still stand by them based off official information that was released at the time. !

As for Ford making the focus in China. Does Ford only make one type of car model now ?
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The first link suggests it might not be a State Visit. That would allow him to come this year and explain it not being in the speech.
Good point but I suspect both governments will have their hands full of other matters this year. Trump will be trying to get his Muslim travel ban in place and Mexican wall built whilst trying to avoid the Russian investigation. Theresa May will be arguing how large a settlement the country should cough up. Latest reports in The Telegraph say £2bn.

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What is there to wonder ? Apart from it being another, boring let's get another opportunity to bash Trump with less than an accurate account of what's really going on.

And nothing desperate about my earlier responses to media reports as I still stand by them based off official information that was released at the time. !

As for Ford making the focus in China. Does Ford only make one type of car model now ?
You've missed the point as much as Theresa May misses her inherited Parliamentry majority. Ford no longer fears the President and yet another of his claimed victories is no more. The Standard describes the situation quite succinctly:
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To Donald Trump's litany of failures - the Mexican wall, Muslim travel ban, repealing Obamacare - today we can add his protectionist agenda.
After being vilified by the President in his first days in office for planning a move to Mexico, Ford scrapped the idea and pledged a rethink. Now, six months later, the results of that review are in, Instead of Mexico, the new Ford Focus will be built in...China.
Don't underestimate the significance of this snub. For all-American Ford to take a decision like this, it must no longer fear the President. It has gone for decision that makes most long-term economic sense.
The US has an increasingly ineffective leadership unable to push through its leader's damaging agendas. Business is breathing a sigh of relief. Sound familiar?
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Good point but I suspect both governments will have their hands full of other matters this year. Trump will be trying to get his Muslim travel ban in place and Mexican wall built whilst trying to avoid the Russian investigation. Theresa May will be arguing how large a settlement the country should cough up. Latest reports in The Telegraph say £2bn.

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You've missed the point as much as Theresa May misses her inherited Parliamentry majority. Ford no longer fears the President and yet another of his claimed victories is no more. The Standard describes the situation quite succinctly:
No it doesn't.

You and The Standard have their facts misconstrued in a totally gung-ho fashion.

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney) - Ford will shift production of the Focus compact car from the United States to China. And in a first for the automaker, it will ship many of these cars back to the U.S. to sell.
Sounds bad, BUT here is the BUT.........

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But the move is more bad news for Mexico than it is for the United States. While the Focus has been built at the Michigan Assembly plant in Wayne, Michigan for years, Ford had previously announced plans to shift its production to Mexico. [B]Ford wants to make room for larger, more profitable vehicles at the Michigan plant, which employs 3,600. The factory won't lose any jobs as a result of the move.

Ford will start building its new small pickup, the Ranger, in 2018, after the Focus moves to China. In 2020, it will build the new Bronco, the SUV model it is bringing back, at the Michigan plant.

Ford also said Tuesday that it will invest $900 million in its Kentucky truck plant to build the new versions of the Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator, there. It said that investment would protect 1,000 jobs at that plant.
http://www.wearecentralpa.com/news/n...xico/746153291

Cannot see anything in that announcement that is devastating news for the U.S Jobs market. It's interesting when you delve a little deeper, rather than believe stuff, at face value, a problem you and some others have.

Thus, I have not missed any point actually.

As for the other failures mentioned in The Standard.

No wall that is thousands of miles long, can be built in 6 months. Pointed this out to you before.

Obamacare, it's not concluded yet.

The Travel ban, is being taken down the SC route, so it's not quite failed, they could overrule 9th Circuit Judge(s) and invoke his Executive Order or they may not, to say it's failed, means it's final.

They would be colossal failures, if he had not done all he said he was, by the end of his term(s), not months in to his early presidency.
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No it doesn't.

You and The Standard have their facts misconstrued in a totally gung-ho fashion.



Sounds bad, BUT here is the BUT.........



http://www.wearecentralpa.com/news/n...xico/746153291

Cannot see anything in that announcement that is devastating news for the U.S Jobs market. It's interesting when you delve a little deeper, rather than believe stuff, at face value, a problem you and some others have.

Thus, I have not missed any point actually.

As for the other failures mentioned in The Standard.

No wall that is thousands of miles long, can be built in 6 months. Pointed this out to you before.

Obamacare, it's not concluded yet.

The Travel ban, is being taken down the SC route, so it's not quite failed, they could overrule 9th Circuit Judge(s) and invoke his Executive Order or they may not, to say it's failed, means it's final.

They would be colossal failures, if he had not done all he said he was, by the end of his term(s), not months in to his early presidency.
Yes it's always worth delving a little deeper where the Donald's concerned, like when he spent $7 million dollars to save less than 800 jobs

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.3188843
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Yes it's always worth delving a little deeper where the Donald's concerned, like when he spent $7 million dollars to save less than 800 jobs

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.3188843
To which has absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed about Ford, do keep up. But yes let's delve a little deeper. He did not actually spend it, it was a tax break deal and keeping those jobs actually saves more than that amount in unemployment benefits, given average weekly state benefit is about $400. So do the maths..... $400 x 750 x 26 (weeks claimable) = $7,800,000.

But if we are going to bring in what seems silly spending amounts, that was extremely wasteful spending, was the DNC spending $30,000,000 trying to get their candidate Jon Ossoff, into Congress in the State of Georgia and still losing to the Republican, Karen Handel. Record crazy spending amount for not even a Mid-term Election.
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But if we are going to bring in what seems silly spending amounts, that was extremely wasteful spending, was the DNC spending $30,000,000 trying to get their candidate Jon Ossoff, into Congress in the State of Georgia and still losing to the Republican, Karen Handel. Record crazy spending amount for not even a Mid-term Election.
If you combine the Democrat and Republican spending in that one congressional district in Georgia, not even the whole state, more money was spent in that election than our general.
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If you combine the Democrat and Republican spending in that one congressional district in Georgia, not even the whole state, more money was spent in that election than our general.
Agreed. Congressional seats are sure expensive.
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To which has absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed about Ford, do keep up. But yes let's delve a little deeper. He did not actually spend it, it was a tax break deal and keeping those jobs actually saves more than that amount in unemployment benefits, given average weekly state benefit is about $400. So do the maths..... $400 x 750 x 26 (weeks claimable) = $7,800,000.
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So those are the consequences he threatened business with, we'll give you a wheelbarrow full of cash, I'm sure most people would have judged going by his rhetoric pre election that things would be going in a slightly different direction than corporate welfare.
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