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Old 20-07-2017, 12:59   #1
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IP ver 6 testing?

My router (FritzBox) off SH3 in modem mode was temporarily allocated an IPv6 address overnight (2a02:8800:f000:1c01:e228:6dff:xxxx:xxxx) by VM.

Back to IP4 only this morning.

Maybe the start of some pre IPv6 rollout testing?

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Old 24-07-2017, 15:11   #2
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

One can only hope, it's long overdue.
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Old 25-07-2017, 12:03   #3
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

Not seen anything yet, however i'm IPv6 ready, we can only dream Virgin might finally be.
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

"Staff trial" starting soon?

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...addresses.html
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Old 17-08-2017, 14:46   #5
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

Interesting the part about "secret" features, I suspect the IPv6 trial involves more than just IPv6 - VoIP perhaps?
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

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My router (FritzBox) off SH3 in modem mode was temporarily allocated an IPv6 address overnight (2a02:8800:f000:1c01:e228:6dff:xxxx:xxxx) by VM.

Back to IP4 only this morning.

Maybe the start of some pre IPv6 rollout testing?

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Needs to be in place for the VoIP project - not enough RFC1918 addresses for all the MTAs.
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

What will this mean to the end user?

My Asus RT-N66U supports it as does my Xbox 1.

I guess the SH3 does.

Can/will both IPv4 & IPv6 be used at the same time?

What is the benefit other than more addresses?
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I guess the SH3 does.
afaik all the shub's do and many many devices have for many years

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My Asus RT-N66U supports it as does my Xbox 1
if your 3rd party router supports ipv6 (which it most certainly will) then it doesn't matter whether the shub does or not because it is only the "router" you need to worry about.

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Can/will both IPv4 & IPv6 be used at the same time?
ish. As far as you are concerned you will have an ipv6 address but the isp will have hardware in place which can convert it to an ipv4 address as it enters and leaves the network to services which do not support ipv6

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What is the benefit other than more addresses?
encryption for starters but the primary benefit is addresses. In my house there are 3 smart phones, 3 tablets, two sky boxes, two printers, two pcs, two laptops, two tvs, 2 bluray players, dvd player, 2 media players and 2 NAS servers which are all networked. I haven't got round to networked fridges and all that stuff yet but ipv6 isn't about giving isps more addresses so they can have more customers, it is about letting every device on the planet having a globally routable ip address.

If you are into your networking and already have a solid understanding of ip addresses and how data is transmitted across a network then these are good videos to watch.

I strongly recommend anyone who has an interest in ipv6 to at least watch the first one to get a basic understanding. There is some stuff you might not have heard of before wand will go over your head but you'll get the gist of it.

The three combined are about 45 mins but they are well worth the watch and you'll appreciate why ipv6 is so much better (and most people won't know or care why) and why isps and businesses need a period of transition.






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Old 12-02-2018, 17:35   #9
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ish. As far as you are concerned you will have an ipv6 address but the isp will have hardware in place which can convert it to an ipv4 address as it enters and leaves the network to services which do not support ipv6
That's not necessarily true, Max. How IPv6 is deployed depends entirely on the ISP in question, however IPv6 and IPv4 can run side by side (Dual Stack). Only a couple of ISPs (mostly mobile operators in the US) have gone full IPv6 with IPv4 translation, but there aren't any indicators that any UK ISP will do the same. In all liklihood, we'll be going Dual stack with Carrier-Grade NAT CG-NAT) to share the last IPv4 addresses across multiple consumers. IPv4 isn't going anywhere.


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encryption for starters
To elaborate on this further, IPv6 doesn't contain any kind of encryption, nor is it encrypted by default. Rather, it was designed with encryption in mind so that when encryption is used, it's more efficient than with IPv4.
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

Dual stack is what i was thinking of, i just didnt want to explain what it was plus the other options available.
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Old 24-02-2018, 20:12   #11
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

After what I said, there's this: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...3-1-plans.html

Virgin must be gearing up for IPv6 and it looks as though they're going the DS-lite route
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Old 24-02-2018, 20:25   #12
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

And docsis3.1 this year which bodes well for 500mbit speed upgrade this year and 1gbit next year.
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Old 24-02-2018, 21:48   #13
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i doubt we will get an upgrade to those speeds, more like new tiers when they are released.
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Re: IP ver 6 testing?

What i mean is that the oodles of extra bandwith docsis3.1 will give them will allow make higher tiers available tout suite and put the competition to shame. I think they reached a bit of a limit/bottleneck back in 2012 ish because when everyone else was having their speed doubled i went from 100 to 120 to 150. The only thing they could do to keep everyone hapoy is lower the price of the tier.
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An upstream increase id like to see to 30mb or more.
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