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Old 16-03-2017, 17:43   #2701
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I think Theresa May is correct in saying we should let Brexit settle and see what happens , I just hope we get a good deal and it will give Sturgeon less to moan about, but I dare say she will still want a Referrendum
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Old 16-03-2017, 18:40   #2702
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No deal on brexit will satisfy sturgeon she wants another bite at the independence apple and the only way to kill it will be for the scottish people to vote out the snp.
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Old 16-03-2017, 21:14   #2703
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

She doesn't want to be ruled by Parliament yet she wants to ruled by the EU.

The Scots will lose free NHS subscriptions and far far more.

IIRC more people live in London than live in Scotland.

If Scotland leave the UK does that mean all those with honours will lose them, I hop so.
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Old 16-03-2017, 21:28   #2704
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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If Scotland leave the UK does that mean all those with honours will lose them, I hop so.
Steady on old chap. The SNP might not be everyone's cup of tea south of the border but Scots are fantastic people; we should distinguish between the political ambitions of a minority and the integrity, bravery and decency of the Scottish people as a whole whom we should all celebrate and value.
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Old 16-03-2017, 21:35   #2705
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Scotland has twice the deficit of any EU country, and that includes the likes of Greece and Italy. They can't fund themselves in the short term, never mind in the long term when the oil runs out.

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Old 16-03-2017, 21:39   #2706
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Every day and in every way, Little England is coming closer and closer. You reap what you sow with Brexit. Thank God I have Welsh blood, maybe they​'ll let fellow Celts emigrate north
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Old 16-03-2017, 21:42   #2707
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Unlike Greece and Italy, Scotland can share in the prosperity of a United Kingdom.
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Unlike Greece and Italy, Scotland can share in the prosperity of a United Kingdom.
Well they're not at the moment, apart from being subsidised by England. That would end with any independence.
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Old 16-03-2017, 21:50   #2709
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Well they're not at the moment, apart from being subsidised by England. That would end with any independence.
London and the South East could make the argument they subsidise a lot of England. If we're going to start breaking up the country based on how much they contribute then Scotland isn't going to be the first to go by a long shot.
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Well they're not at the moment, apart from being subsidised by England. That would end with any independence.
Well let's hope they stay with us. Not sure 'subsidised' is a word I'd use given the contribution made by Scots to the UK.
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London and the South East could make the argument they subsidise a lot of England. If we're going to start breaking up the country based on how much they contribute then Scotland isn't going to be the first to go by a long shot.
With independence they would have to find the money elsewhere. The English regions are funded by a set of criteria. Scottish funding goes way above that. If they were funded by the same criteria, which are based upon need, they would lose out massively. If the Scots were funding their freebies by doing things more efficiently, then good for them, but they're not.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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As I said I think it's 50/50 if they'll go Independent but I also we have a better chance if we do it whilst their case is weak.

Maybe the Tories will get enough seats to prevent a SNP majority but with Corbyn being as useless as he is, and possibly even campaigning for a Yes vote, I think it won't help much.

I think May should have announced what you said though. The way she has done makes it easy for the Nats to spin it as the referendum being blocked.
The main advantage about delaying a referendum is that it reduces the chances of Corbyn being around to campaign for Scotland to remain, which would guarante a leave vote!

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London and the South East could make the argument they subsidise a lot of England. If we're going to start breaking up the country based on how much they contribute then Scotland isn't going to be the first to go by a long shot.
The sooner London gets independence and joins the EU the better! We'll all be earning £100k each, paying 5% tax and working 20 hours a week!
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Old 16-03-2017, 22:07   #2713
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With independence they would have to find the money elsewhere. The English regions are funded by a set of criteria. Scottish funding goes way above that. If they were funded by the same criteria, which are based upon need, they would lose out massively. If the Scots were funding their freebies by doing things more efficiently, then good for them, but they're not.
The English regions are funded because it's all the same country. Scotland is different because of the devolved Parliament but, although independence would cost them, they're reasonably prosperous compared to a lot of English regions.

Breaking up the Union would damage us both. It's completely nuts and counterproductive. It will achieve nothing but cause more problems for everyone.
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Old 16-03-2017, 23:47   #2714
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The snp don't bother themselves with facts or reality they are in a little dreamworld where them saying things will magically make them happen if the scottish people ever vote for independence. Despite the frustration that many south of the border have with this issue by and large there is a lot of respect towards scotland from the other members of the union and that is more then they will ever get off the EU if they do go independent. Theresa May has done the right thing in not agreeing to a referendum on the snp's timetable as it will give the Scottish people a chance to voice their opinion in an election first and if an snp majority is returned then give them the vote again.

At the very least though it should be conditional that if the vote is to remain in the UK there will be no more votes for a set period we cannot have this popping up anytime some loon in the snp thinks they can win.
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Every day and in every way, Little England is coming closer and closer. You reap what you sow with Brexit. Thank God I have Welsh blood, maybe they​'ll let fellow Celts emigrate north

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