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Old 13-02-2017, 15:53   #31
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Re: Cyclists to listen to the public anger

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The responsibility of a cyclist is one of staying alive in the chaos of motorised ineptitude.
If it was motorist ineptitude more would be dead. Last night was okay but Friday and Saturday were rediculous, it was almost like some of them didn't want to stay alive

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You seem ill-equipped to cope with the responsibility of driving. Get a job at B&Q for a calmer life at your age; the world is too hectic for you.
Ill equipped because I haven't killed someone because of the care I take, no thanks to them, if they showed the same level of responsibility as me we'd all get on fine.

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The andecdotes of cycling deaths caused by poor drivers such as yourself will far outweigh those of cyclists causing the deaths of motorists.
And anecdotes of poor cycling causing their own death far outweigh anything else still I'm sure you'll continue to peddle out excuses for their behaviour

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That which you describe as flitting is cyclists trying to make best use of a number of 'bolt-on' fixes in a transport system designed for motor vehicles.
No matter how dangerous or irresponsible
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Old 13-02-2017, 16:24   #32
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Re: Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a w

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Old 13-02-2017, 16:53   #33
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Re: Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a w

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So, let me get this right: a cyclist displaying lights and reflectors with right of way is an idiot because you didn't see him? Were you wearing hi-vis and a helmet at the time? The famous last words would be "you are guilty of manslaughter".
Did you not read?
Low light area
Black hi vis on black
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Thin black bike

In other words he had no visibility aid at all. About all I could see was his face between the black helmet and black cycling gear.
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Old 13-02-2017, 18:09   #34
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Re: Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a w

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Did you not read?
Low light area
Black hi vis on black
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Thin black bike

In other words he had no visibility aid at all. About all I could see was his face between the black helmet and black cycling gear.
I did read. Your use of the terms 'Black lights and black reflectors' is confusing. A black light means no light? Well I never.

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If it was motorist ineptitude more would be dead.
Over 120 in 2016. A trifling figure eh?

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Ill equipped because I haven't killed someone because of the care I take, no thanks to them, if they showed the same level of responsibility as me we'd all get on fine.
But your nerves imply this is luck not judgement on your part.

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And anecdotes of poor cycling causing their own death far outweigh anything else still I'm sure you'll continue to peddle out excuses for their behaviour
I see what you did there.

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Old 13-02-2017, 19:13   #35
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Re: Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a w

If we were ever to go down the route of making cyclists pass tests and and get insurance at what age should that start ?

If we were ever to go down the route of making cyclists pass tests and get insurance how many would just say "sod this "and go and buy a car or a motorbike thus increasing the congestion .

Drivers and cyclists need educating it really is as simple as that
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Re: Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a w

It might be nice if cyclists would stop riding on pavements/footpaths that are pedestrian only..Getting sick of being nearly mowed down by cyclists on the sea front promenade despite all the signs and 12 inch high no cycling signs painted in white on the footpath.
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Re: Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a w

I have a street that I walk down to get the morning paper. It's one way east bound yet cyclists without lights and black clothing use it the wrong way on either side and then when the rat runners come hurtling down they veer onto the footpath. Madness! It's only a matter of time before one gets totalled.

Not a copper to be seen of course.
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Re: Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a w

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If we were ever to go down the route of making cyclists pass tests and and get insurance at what age should that start ?

If we were ever to go down the route of making cyclists pass tests and get insurance how many would just say "sod this "and go and buy a car or a motorbike thus increasing the congestion .

Drivers and cyclists need educating it really is as simple as that
Cyclists have insurance; we are covered by (your) vehicle insurance.

I agree drivers need educating; their education is underway.

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It might be nice if cyclists would stop riding on pavements/footpaths that are pedestrian only..Getting sick of being nearly mowed down by cyclists on the sea front promenade despite all the signs and 12 inch high no cycling signs painted in white on the footpath.
Better get used to sharing pavement space Maggy.

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I have a street that I walk down to get the morning paper. It's one way east bound yet cyclists without lights and black clothing use it the wrong way on either side and then when the rat runners come hurtling down they veer onto the footpath. Madness! It's only a matter of time before one gets totalled.

Not a copper to be seen of course.
Even so, I'd bet the main highway is a lot more dangerous than the odd oncoming rat runner.

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Re: Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a w

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Over 120 in 2016. A trifling figure eh?
It's a tragic figure, they can't have all Ben the fault of drivers though

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But your nerves imply this is luck not judgement on your part.
More like skill, hazard perception and awareness don't just happen and I am nervous around cyclists, no matter how much you slow down or how much room you give them its not enough and you just can't legislate for what they'll do next

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It's a tragic figure
Agreed.

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More like skill, hazard perception and awareness don't just happen and I am nervous around cyclists, no matter how much you slow down or how much room you give them its not enough and you just can't legislate for what they'll do next
Are all the cyclists near you performing unicycle artistes?

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Cyclists have insurance; we are covered by (your) vehicle insurance.

I agree drivers need educating; their education is underway.


Better get used to sharing pavement space Maggy.


Even so, I'd bet the main highway is a lot more dangerous than the odd oncoming rat runner.
Looks like you do condone riding through red lights then.
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Re: Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a w

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Cyclists have insurance; we are covered by (your) vehicle insurance.

I agree drivers need educating; their education is underway.


Better get used to sharing pavement space Maggy.


Even so, I'd bet the main highway is a lot more dangerous than the odd oncoming rat runner.
Cyclists already have a cycle-way along the seafront..and they are breaking the by-laws by riding on the seafront promenade...but of course there is never anyone around to do anything about them.
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Did the lorry jump a red iight and then claim it was the girls fault?
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I take it that you are an advocate of cyclists riding through red lights
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Hence my question, do you think its ok for cyclists to jump red lights?
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Looks like you do condone riding through red lights then.
10/10 for persistence .

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Cyclists already have a cycle-way along the seafront..and they are breaking the by-laws by riding on the seafront promenade...but of course there is never anyone around to do anything about them.
Similarly I suppose, there is never anyone around to stop pedestrians walking on the cycle-way. But then, cyclists are happy to share 'their' space.
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10/10 for persistence .



Similarly I suppose, there is never anyone around to stop pedestrians walking on the cycle-way. But then, cyclists are happy to share 'their' space.
I am but don't worry, now I know what you see where you stand on the cyclist front, you will not see another response to any of your posts from me, goodbye and good luck on the roads. Btw, expect a smack in the gob, if you ever jump a red light when I am crossing the road.

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Similarly I suppose, there is never anyone around to stop pedestrians walking on the cycle-way. But then, cyclists are happy to share 'their' space.
The onus is on cyclists to avoid pedestrians since there is no restriction to stop pedestrians walking in 'cycle ways' .A marked out track on a footpath does not mean it is solely for cyclists
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