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Old 07-06-2017, 11:29   #46
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Re: New Build Woes

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You have really high expectations! You need to reign it in a bit!

Next Friday is pretty quick, considering you've only just been given the date.
Haha you're right. I'm just desperate! Still... only two days to go now. Some guys came to pull through the cable so hopefully there'll be no problems on a Friday morning.

So excited!
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Old 11-06-2017, 18:03   #47
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Re: New Build Woes

A friend of mine lives in a street where the opposite side from where he lives is fibered but his side isnt.

He contacted virgin about having his side connected and was told that the council refuse them to allow them to close part of the road and dig it up because its on the main driving test route and they do not want to allow disruption.
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Old 11-06-2017, 19:37   #48
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Haha you're right. I'm just desperate! Still... only two days to go now. Some guys came to pull through the cable so hopefully there'll be no problems on a Friday morning.

So excited!
So how did it go.... You've gone quiet on this one...
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:57   #49
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So how did it go.... You've gone quiet on this one...
Ok, so we got installed on Friday. Guy seemed very unsure and took over two hours, but we have fibre now! Very happy with the broadband. TV probably we won't keep, but it was one of those deals where it's cheaper to have it than not! 🙄

My only slight concern is that he unwired our BT master socket and used that for the Virgin socket to maintain the extension wiring that was connected to the BT socket. Not sure that's standard - the BT cable now routes via the brown Virgin box externally. Not sure what's going on inside.

But I'm happy with the speed. It's a real relief to have first world internet!
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Ok, so we got installed on Friday. Guy seemed very unsure and took over two hours, but we have fibre now! Very happy with the broadband. TV probably we won't keep, but it was one of those deals where it's cheaper to have it than not! 🙄

My only slight concern is that he unwired our BT master socket and used that for the Virgin socket to maintain the extension wiring that was connected to the BT socket. Not sure that's standard - the BT cable now routes via the brown Virgin box externally. Not sure what's going on inside.

But I'm happy with the speed. It's a real relief to have first world internet!
That sounds good, as for the BT socket this is standard in new builds, they extension wiring always seems to be wired to the BT socket rather than the Virgin one.

As for the time, i'm sure that's because he had to work out how the wiring was done as no plans are provided to the installers... they have to work it out on the job
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Old 12-06-2017, 13:44   #51
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That sounds good, as for the BT socket this is standard in new builds, they extension wiring always seems to be wired to the BT socket rather than the Virgin one.

As for the time, i'm sure that's because he had to work out how the wiring was done as no plans are provided to the installers... they have to work it out on the job
He was very pleasant, so no real complaints about the installer.

I'd have thought VM would install their own master socket and then just attach the extension wiring to that instead of the BT socket. Not sure what I'd do if I wanted, e.g. a BT phone line and Virgin internet. I guess the BT guy would have the open the Virgin box and reconnect the BT cable to the master socket?

Normally when you have a phone line already, they won't send an engineer, so I don't know how this would work.

It's sort of moot, as I can't see us moving away from Virgin given how abhorrent the ADSL service is in this area. Still, I'd like to think it's been done properly.
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Old 12-06-2017, 16:11   #52
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He's taken over your BT socket so you'll need an installer to visit if you do switch to the Openreach network in future. But this is fairly standard practice. People don't want two different master sockets, it makes more sense just to have the one and then to use that for whatever service you have at the time.
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I didn't think anyone except Openreach was meant to be touching the wiring that leads into the back of an NTE5.
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I didn't think anyone except Openreach was meant to be touching the wiring that leads into the back of an NTE5.
Welcome to the real world though. It's very, very common.
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Re: New Build Woes

In a new build if the builders pre wire the house with only one master socket then whoever uses the master socket first owns it
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Old 13-06-2017, 13:35   #56
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In a new build if the builders pre wire the house with only one master socket then whoever uses the master socket first owns it
Yeah it definitely seems like every installation is different, and the poor engineers have to work it out as they go along. You’d think home builders would work with Virgin and install everything in a standardised way - ditto the BT stuff.

Cala seem to have pre-wired everything, including there being a telephone socket that was NOT part of the extension wiring (there’s another phone socket next to it that IS on the extension loop) that was next to the living room Virgin port. I’d have assumed that the Virgin socket would be that one but perhaps the extension wiring couldn’t be connected to it.

I feel for the engineers as every day must be a new obstacle!
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