Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mr K

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40095822

That's all we need, immigrant pensioners back with their skin cancer and dodgy hips. Where are they going to house all these health tourists, that's what I want to know ?

Meanwhile EU NHS staff head in the opposite direction, seems like a plan....

Sounds a good deal: the EU get our old dodgy expensive oldies and we get their young, healthy, tax paying young 'uns!

Remember though:

if you are British abroad, you are an expat

if you are Foreign here, you are a migrant

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mr K

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40095822

That's all we need, immigrant pensioners back with their skin cancer and dodgy hips. Where are they going to house all these health tourists, that's what I want to know ?

Meanwhile EU NHS staff head in the opposite direction, seems like a plan....

It's what we voted for, apparently

[jonbxx]

The untransparent, opaque EU has published its negotiating position for talks for everyone to see. This includes its' position for citizens rights and financial settlement - https://ec.europa.eu/commission/publ...egotiations_en

The financial position one is interesting as it shows all the institutions we pay in to and may have ongoing financial liabilities for. I have copied here;

1. Institutions and consultative bodies

European Parliament
European Council European
European Commission
European Court of Auditors
Court of Justice of the European Union
Council of the European Union
Economic and Social Committee
Committee of the Regions
European Ombudsman
European Data Protection Supervisor
European External Action Service

2. EU Agencies

2.1. Executive Agencies
Education, Audiovisual & Culture Executive Agency
Executive Agency for Small and Medium-sized Enterprises
Consumers, Health, Agriculture and Food Executive Agency
Innovation & Networks Executive Agency
Research Executive Agency
European Research Council Executive Agency

2.2. Decentralised Agencies
European Maritime Safety Agency
European Food Safety Authority
European Medicines Agency
European Railway Agency
European GNSS Supervisory Authority
Community Plant Variety Office
European Chemicals Agency
European Fisheries Control Agency
Fusion for Energy (European Joint Undertaking for ITER and the Development of Fusion Energy)
European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction
Eurojust
European Union Agency for Law Enforcement Training (CEPOL)
European Institute for Gender Equality
European Police Office (EUROPOL)
European Agency for Safety and Health at Work
European Aviation Safety Agency
European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control
European Network and Information Security Agency
European Environment Agency
European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights
European Centre for the Development of Vocational training
European Insurance and Occupational Pensions Authority
European Agency for Cooperation of Energy Regulators
Translation Centre for the Bodies of the European Union
European Banking Authority
European Securities and Markets Authority
European Asylum Support Office
European Training Foundation
Office for the Body of European Regulators for Electronic Communication
European Foundation for the Improvement of Living and Working Conditions
European Border and Coast Guard Agency (Frontex)
European Union Intellectual Property Office
EU-LISA (European Agency for the operational management of large-scale IT systems in the area of freedom, security and justice)
The Single Resolution Board (SRB)

3. Other entities
European Coal and Steel Community (in liquidation)
European Institute of Innovation and Technology

B. JOINT VENTURES
SESAR Joint Undertaking
Innovative Medicines Initiative 2 Joint Undertaking
Fuel Cells and Hydrogen Joint Undertaking
ECSEL Joint undertaking
Clean Sky 2 Joint Undertaking
Bio-based Industries Joint Undertaking
Shift2Rail
Galileo Joint Undertaking in liquidation

C. ASSOCIATES FUNDS IN THE ACCOUNTS
European Investment Fund

D. FUNDS NOT IN THE CONSOLIDATED ACCOUNTS
European Development Fund
Facility for Refugees in Turkey

E. TRUST FUNDS
European Union Trust Fund for Central African Republic “Bêkou EU Trust Fund”
European Union Regional Trust Fund in response to the Syrian crisis, "the Madad Fund"
Emergency Trust Fund for stability and addressing root causes of irregular migration and displaced persons in Africa
Trust Fund for Columbia

F. BODIES NOT IN THE CONSOLIDATED ACCOUNTS
European Central Bank
European Investment Bank
European Defence Agency
European Union Institute for Security Studies
European Union Satellite Centre
European Schools

[Kursk]

Strewth. Seeing just how deep the rabbit hole goes is an eye opener. I suggest the following UK negotiating position:

Essential Principles on Financial Settlement

Aucun accord n'est meilleur qu'une mauvaise affaire

Isspay offay.

[1andrew1]

Impact of Brexit vote sadly now starting to be felt.

UK comes bottom of G7 growth league as Canada takes lead
Britain’s 0.2% growth rate puts it on a par with Italy, while Canadian economy expanded by 0.9% in first quarter.

Canada 0.9%
Germany 0.6%
Japan 0.5%
France 0.4%
US 0.3%
Italy 0.2%
UK 0.2%

https://www.theguardian.com/business...takes-the-lead

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Impact of Brexit vote sadly now starting to be felt.

Canada 0.9%
Germany 0.6%
Japan 0.5%
France 0.4%
US 0.3%
Italy 0.2%
UK 0.2%

https://www.theguardian.com/business...takes-the-lead

Really? So how is Brexit affecting the US, whose growth is just one tenth of a percentage point higher than ours?

Honestly, articles like this in the Grauniad are the very worst of metropolitan remoaning. They're not reporting news, they're simply playing to the prejudices of their Islington readership.

Sorry i see "guardian" and instantly lose all interest that paper hasn't run an article not in keeping with it's bias and agenda for as long as i can remember. Our press in the UK is nothing more then a joke these days nobody is served by any of them sadly online is even worse as hard as that is to believe.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Sorry i see "guardian" and instantly lose all interest that paper hasn't run an article not in keeping with it's bias and agenda for as long as i can remember. Our press in the UK is nothing more then a joke these days nobody is served by any of them sadly online is even worse as hard as that is to believe.

For one RK l have to agree with you.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Chris

Really? So how is Brexit affecting the US, whose growth is just one tenth of a percentage point higher than ours?

Honestly, articles like this in the Grauniad are the very worst of metropolitan remoaning. They're not reporting news, they're simply playing to the prejudices of their Islington readership.

What is incorrect in the linked article? If it correct and factual, it is news.

You may not like the news it is reporting but that is your decision ...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by ianch99

What is incorrect in the linked article? If it correct and factual, it is news.

You may not like the news it is reporting but that is your decision ...

Exactly. It may be better news next quarter and I hope it is, but let's not put our heads in the sand any time negative news arises.

I see some are still not getting the fact that the guardian is venomously Anti-Brexit. I have no problem ignoring their negative Remoaning crap.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

I see some are still not getting the fact that the guardian is venomously Anti-Brexit. I have no problem ignoring their negative Remoaning crap.

So, are you pretending that the UK was not at the foot of the G7 for growth then?

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

So, are you pretending that the UK was not at the foot of the G7 for growth then?

Me pretend ?

Don't do pretend

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mick

I see some are still not getting the fact that the guardian is venomously Anti-Brexit. I have no problem ignoring their negative Remoaning crap.

Indeed it is anti Brexit Mick but then some are for Brexit so l suppose it is what suits each persons own agenda at the end of the day as to what they believe as personally Brexit is happening at end of at the end of the day and personally there are far more important things to care and worry about then that personally.

---------- Post added at 05:52 ---------- Previous post was at 05:48 ----------

Originally Posted by Mick

Me pretend ?

Don't do pretend

Well at least you are honest and not pretentious and true to your word although slightly OTT at times one would say.

[OLD BOY]

I think newspapers should have a legal responsibility to report news in a neutral way, leaving any bias to seperate clearly marked editorial sections and commentary.

If there are regular or serious breaches of the code that would be needed to enforce this, the Government should be able to strip from them the right to call the publication a newspaper.

I know this would be difficult to enforce, but the blatant bias of most newspapers really has no place in a democracy, where people rely on what they read to inform them as to which way they are going to vote.

Brexit is a case in point - there are arguments for and against. If you bombast your readers with pro-EU or pro-Brexit propaganda, this will have an undue influence on most of the newspaper's readership and lead them to incorrect conclusions.