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Old 09-09-2014, 07:33   #2056
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Someone was saying earlier that the Scots can always come back in four or five years if it doesn't work.out err says who, the go they stay gone imo
That's part of the problem. Some swaying voters are think "Och well we can give it a go and if it goes wrong we will go back" not realising this is a one way street.

A yes vote might bring prosperity and social utopia to Scotland. It's far more likely to lead to:

The EU, not EU lite that the UK has with rebates, opt outs etc. but the full on EU experience with the Euro, Schengen, no rebate, no opt outs and the kind of voice at the table that Ireland has.

A demolition of the housing market with mortgage rates shooting up and with either a CU or Euro a foreign parliament will be overseeing our budget

Huge swathes of jobs being lost in finance, ship building and other industries.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Yes I know its the Fail but....

It's actually quite good - regardless of your affiliatiion pro or anti

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Old 09-09-2014, 10:58   #2058
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Yes I know its the Fail but....

It's actually quite good - regardless of your affiliatiion pro or anti

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Old 09-09-2014, 11:48   #2059
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

What's going to happen if it is a small majority for 'No'? How soon will the SNP demand a new referendum?
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Old 09-09-2014, 13:38   #2060
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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What's going to happen if it is a small majority for 'No'? How soon will the SNP demand a new referendum?
Sturgeon has already said within 5 years...

In reality this has been a wake up call that the protest vote against labour in the last election was a terrible idea and hopefully they won't get an absolute majority ever again.
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Old 09-09-2014, 15:09   #2061
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

So, it could go on until the 'Yes' win? Maybe people think if they vote 'Yes' this time they won't have to take part in a referendum again.
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Old 09-09-2014, 17:18   #2062
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

If no wins this is just going to drag on and on and given yes appears to have a boost the anti English rhetoric will continue. I'm really hoping its yes now because I don't believe a no win would be decisive enough to end this issue.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Isn't there talk of Salmond wanting another vote if this result is a narrow win for the No vote?
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Old 09-09-2014, 17:58   #2064
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Isn't there talk of Salmond wanting another vote if this result is a narrow win for the No vote?
There is an absolute guarantee of it, but he won't have the legal authority to do so and won't be able to argue that he should be given that authority again unless he wins an outright majority at the Holyrood election in 2016.
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Old 09-09-2014, 19:38   #2065
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Interesting interview with Pat Cox, former EU president..

Blows some of the BT assertions about the EU out of the water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9NcuGVtGfY
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Interesting interview with Pat Cox, former EU president.. Blows some of the BT assertions about the EU out of the water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9NcuGVtGfY
Interesting. And again the Ireland / Northern Ireland / UK relationship regarding borders (or lack thereof) as a precedent is mentioned.
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Old 09-09-2014, 19:58   #2067
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

My first and only post on the subject as I've only followed this thread loosely, if I'm being selfish I'd vote No, but I would need to do a lot of research to make a proper decision.

What I have found is it seems those that have made up their minds right from the start tend to walk around with their fingers in their ears shouting LA LA. Everyone else is wrong apart from them.

Looking back from the first couple of pages, it is quite comical in the way things have changed, from 'it'll never happen blah blah blah' to 'Oh Poop, everyone's a numpty'.

If I was Scottish, I don't think this forum would make the slightest bit of difference in the info or the way I would vote.
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Old 09-09-2014, 20:14   #2068
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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My first and only post on the subject as I've only followed this thread loosely, if I'm being selfish I'd vote No, but I would need to do a lot of research to make a proper decision.

What I have found is it seems those that have made up their minds right from the start tend to walk around with their fingers in their ears shouting LA LA. Everyone else is wrong apart from them.

Looking back from the first couple of pages, it is quite comical in the way things have changed, from 'it'll never happen blah blah blah' to 'Oh Poop, everyone's a numpty'.

If I was Scottish, I don't think this forum would make the slightest bit of difference in the info or the way I would vote.
Generally speaking most discussions on CF don't accurately reflect the general population... this one is certainly no different
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I think I will move to Scotland if the folks vote Yes, just so that I can get away from the Tory Downton Abbey Syndrome that exists here in England!

Some papers have headlines like:
Will Another Royal Baby Save the Union... I think not.

Waiting for the English Republic to Return... long wait me thinks.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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I think I will move to Scotland if the folks vote Yes, just so that I can get away from the Tory Downton Abbey Syndrome that exists here in England!

Some papers have headlines like:
Will Another Royal Baby Save the Union... I think not.

Waiting for the English Republic to Return... long wait me thinks.
I'm still leaning towards voting no. I must admit though, that I'm kind of enjoying the squirming that Cameron, Miliband and Clegg are now having to do having taken the outcome for granted for so long. They'll all be in Scotland tomorrow but canvassing separately. Wouldn't they be better together
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