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June 8th General Election
View Poll Results: Who would you vote for on 8th June?
Conservatives 47 48.96%
Labour 24 25.00%
Liberal Democrats 9 9.38%
UKIP 4 4.17%
Greens 2 2.08%
Other 5 5.21%
None, I will Abstain. 5 5.21%
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Old 27-05-2017, 21:31   #751
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which party give the biggest tax cut to the riches
The rich are paying more than ever before, actually. If you overdo it, they will either change their behaviour to counteract the tax increase or they will move out of the country, as Mick Jagger did in the 1970s.

There is no point in taxing the rich to such an extent that you drive them away. That will just reduce our income, and who do you think would have to make up the deficiency? The poor, of course, because they have nowhere to run.
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Old 27-05-2017, 22:52   #752
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What are you talking about? Which party is it who've taken the lowest earners out of paying income tax altogether?
Liberal Democrats - they negotiated this with the Tories when they were in coalition.

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So Corbyn does a u-turn! So in the May v Corbyn contest, that's 1-1 then. May adds 5% points to her electoral advantage, then!
I'm not sure how many U-turns Corbyn has made, probably many. But Theresa May has loads to her name. She's no Thatcher in that respect.
Examples include: foreign worker lists, national insurance rise for self-employed, workers on company boards, a British bill of rights, Hinckley Point, no early election, no energy cap. Strong and stable? Not in a conventional sense. She needs to test her policies more with the Party rather than relying on Timothy and Fiona to tell her what will work.
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Liberal Democrats - they negotiated this with the Tories when they were in coalition.

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I'm not sure how many U-turns Corbyn has made, probably many. But Theresa May has loads to her name. She's no Thatcher in that respect.
Examples include: foreign worker lists, national insurance rise for self-employed, workers on company boards, a British bill of rights, Hinckley Point, no early election, no energy cap. Strong and stable? Not in a conventional sense. She needs to test her policies more with the Party rather than relying on Timothy and Fiona to tell her what will work.
Looking at this election campaign so far without any bias Andrew l think its fair to say that the Conservatives election campaign has been nothing short of extremely poor.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/...ampaign-ever/#
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Liberal Democrats - they negotiated this with the Tories when they were in coalition.

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I'm not sure how many U-turns Corbyn has made, probably many. But Theresa May has loads to her name. She's no Thatcher in that respect.
Examples include: foreign worker lists, national insurance rise for self-employed, workers on company boards, a British bill of rights, Hinckley Point, no early election, no energy cap. Strong and stable? Not in a conventional sense. She needs to test her policies more with the Party rather than relying on Timothy and Fiona to tell her what will work.
It's the scale of the u turning that's worrying, generally I don't have a problem with politicians flip flopping a bit as it shows they aren't pig headed and stubborn enough to belive they're right and everyone else is wrong but Mrs May u turns on the big stuff and to do it so often is unforgivable, strong and stable leadership, there's a laugh, we've got troops on the streets! you're right about the lib Dems to iirc
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Looking at this election campaign so far without any bias Andrew l think its fair to say that the Conservatives election campaign has been nothing short of extremely poor.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/...ampaign-ever/#
Great article, thanks for sharing. I agree with Brenda from Bristol!

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It's the scale of the u turning that's worrying, generally I don't have a problem with politicians flip flopping a bit as it shows they aren't pig headed and stubborn enough to belive they're right and everyone else is wrong but Mrs May u turns on the big stuff and to do it so often is unforgivable, strong and stable leadership, there's a laugh, we've got troops on the streets! you're right about the lib Dems to iirc
Agreed. If something's wrong it's arrogant to pursue it to the point of failure. What's concerning here is indeed the scale. It suggests there's no underlying philosophy or that the policies aren't thought through and consulted on sufficiently before being launched.Or both.
I guess the U-turns give her and Trump a mutual interest.
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The rich are paying more than ever before, actually. If you overdo it, they will either change their behaviour to counteract the tax increase or they will move out of the country, as Mick Jagger did in the 1970s.

There is no point in taxing the rich to such an extent that you drive them away. That will just reduce our income, and who do you think would have to make up the deficiency? The poor, of course, because they have nowhere to run.
So why is the gap between rich and poor increasing?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...h-poor-9733231
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Don't forget to vote Labour on June 8th.

Give wobbly Theresa a chance to rest and get greyer.
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Don't forget to vote Labour on June 8th.

Give wobbly Theresa a chance to rest and get greyer.
Yes, doesn't she look tired ?
Bet the EU are looking forward to negotiating with Mrs. weak and unstable.
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Don't forget to vote Labour on June 8th.

Give wobbly Theresa a chance to rest and get greyer.
No thanks. Steptoe needs a rest more than she. All these car crash interviews he and Abbott have given of late makes them mentally unfit to govern.
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No thanks. Steptoe needs a rest more than she. All these car crash interviews he and Abbott have given of late makes them mentally unfit to govern.
And yet they're still in the race, says a lot about the tories imo
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And yet they're still in the race, says a lot about the tories imo
It does no such thing.

May will get her majority. I feel a lot of sane people will not be wanting to vote for the IRAbour Communist Party. Steptoe is relying on the young voters, that's why he is promising the heaven and Earth to win their vote.

All these magic money trees the IRAbour Party needs because let's face it, if they win, all those unaffordable promises will be half met, but they will still bankrupt the country, unions will be given free reign again and that comes with it, strikes galore, so next time Tories come to power, they are yet again clearing up the IRAbour mess.
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No thanks. Steptoe needs a rest more than she. All these car crash interviews he and Abbott have given of late makes them mentally unfit to govern.
Yes one is right when Corbyn and Abbot are unfit to govern but just because they are unfit to govern other political parties still have to appeal to the electorate in order for them to vote for them on June the 8th and frankly so far we have seen one party hiding behind their petticoats hoping to say nothing in the hope they will get in with a landslide with a leader who as one writer said yesterday has the personal warmth, wit, oratorical ability and attractiveness of an Indesit fridge-freezer which has been faultily connected by a man called Trevor for five quid and then we have another hypocritical leader of the Lib Dems who contradicts himself on a regular basis.

Not exactly a great choice is it.....
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It does no such thing.

May will get her majority. I feel a lot of sane people will not be wanting to vote for the IRAbour Communist Party. Steptoe is relying on the young voters, that's why he is promising the heaven and Earth to win their vote.

All these magic money trees the IRAbour Party needs because let's face it, if they win, all those unaffordable promises will be half met, but they will still bankrupt the country, unions will be given free reign again and that comes with it, strikes galore, so next time Tories come to power, they are yet again clearing up the IRAbour mess.
You may well be right, they'd rather vote for Mrs May and her hmm what does she stand for exactly, anyone know, she talks a good game on strong and stable leadership, well actually she doesn't, she just keeps on repeating the phrase possibly in the desperate hope someone will believe her, without looking out of their window of course and seeing the troops marching up and down, very stable. I also saw her having a pop at Corbyn's figures saying they didn't add up, well she should know seeing as she was just accused of being less than honest about her own figures by the institute of fiscal studies


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Personally I say a pox on both their houses and am voting green or possibly lib dem if I like the cut of the candidates jib
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I made a protest vote against both, by voting for the (sadly pro EU) Green party. Might not affect the majority of the incumbent MP but I severely doubt Labour will get the 5.18% swing needed to win Stevenage.
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Yes one is right when Corbyn and Abbot are unfit to govern but just because they are unfit to govern other political parties still have to appeal to the electorate in order for them to vote for them on June the 8th and frankly so far we have seen one party hiding behind their petticoats hoping to say nothing in the hope they will get in with a landslide with a leader who as one writer said yesterday has the personal warmth, wit, oratorical ability and attractiveness of an Indesit fridge-freezer which has been faultily connected by a man called Trevor for five quid and then we have another hypocritical leader of the Lib Dems who contradicts himself on a regular basis.

Not exactly a great choice is it.....
How vary dare you Den my Indesit fridge freezer is far more attractive than the PM. In fact last night.....

All this Steptoe and fridge freezer name calling isn't exactly what we should be voting on is it? You'd think we're a nation of image obsessed drones who slavishly follow reality TV etc. and buy the tabloids so we can be told what to think and how to vote.
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