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Old 20-02-2017, 19:15   #346
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I hope you got Trump a Presidents Day card Dude...
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Hehe I doubt he would like the card I got him mate
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I can only find the US ambassador to the UN (just appointed by Trump) comments.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7584386.html

It's Mike Pence, that Andrew indicated that I'm particularly interested in.
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Old 20-02-2017, 20:30   #349
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In my opinion we dont have a president now,we have a moron on the loose who is fixin' to destory our country!!
Yes you do have a President one that is democratically Elected.

As for the comment about destroying your country. None of the previous Presidents did anything to fix some of the long standing issues your country has, in fact some issues have got worse, not better : google homelessness US and see how that got worse under your precious Obama and because past Presidents such as him, they did very little to help ALL Americans, is the reason Trump won the Presidency, the sooner you liberals in the US understand that the better.
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But what he says is important - he is the leader of the largest economy and the strongest armed forces in the world; if what he says can be misunderstood, that's a problem.

Also, there's a huge difference in not being a skilled orator and making things up (largest share of electoral vote since Reagan, been on the cover of Time a record number of times, look what happened last night in Sweden).
Of course it is and yes there is a potential problem but the fact remains that he has these issues and a whole lot of Americans still love him. He clearly doesn't yet have the team around him to advise or persuade him to be a tad more judicious about what he says and does. Maybe he never will, after all Boris has a lot more experience in politics and is far more eloquent than Trump is but look at the gaffes he's made.

Skilled orators have the ability to phrase what they say very carefully to avoid getting caught out but that doesn't mean they're more honest. Far from it. Good diplomats know how to avoid giving offence when they'd honestly quite like to. Trump may well have deliberately made stuff up on the other hand he might just not be very good at listening to what he's being briefed. Being a billionaire who's used to doing/getting what he wants might account for that. That may make him a loose cannon president and/or deluded even but it doesn't necessarily make him a liar. Even if he is a liar is he any worse than many other presidents who've lied their way into office and during their terms?

I think a lot of people like Trump because he appears so different from the norm and they're mightily fed up with that. They appreciate his direct manner, believe he'll do what he says and for that reason they'll forgive his crass remarks and ignore the media frenzy. You and I might not like that but we don't matter. If he doesn't deliver it'll be them he answers to.

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Yes you do have a President one that is democratically Elected.

As for the comment about destroying your country. None of the previous Presidents did anything to fix some of the long standing issues your country has, in fact some issues have got worse, not better : google homelessness US and see how that got worse under your precious Obama and because past Presidents such as him, they did very little to help ALL Americans, is the reason Trump won the Presidency, the sooner you liberals in the US understand that the better.
Crikey, did you used to work in Brussels Mick, they like telling people in other countries what to do.
 
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Of course it is and yes there is a potential problem but the fact remains that he has these issues and a whole lot of Americans still love him. He clearly doesn't yet have the team around him to advise or persuade him to be a tad more judicious about what he says and does. Maybe he never will, after all Boris has a lot more experience in politics and is far more eloquent than Trump is but look at the gaffes he's made.

Skilled orators have the ability to phrase what they say very carefully to avoid getting caught out but that doesn't mean they're more honest. Far from it. Good diplomats know how to avoid giving offence when they'd honestly quite like to. Trump may well have deliberately made stuff up on the other hand he might just not be very good at listening to what he's being briefed. Being a billionaire who's used to doing/getting what he wants might account for that. That may make him a loose cannon president and/or deluded even but it doesn't necessarily make him a liar. Even if he is a liar is he any worse than many other presidents who've lied their way into office and during their terms?

I think a lot of people like Trump because he appears so different from the norm and they're mightily fed up with that. They appreciate his direct manner, believe he'll do what he says and for that reason they'll forgive his crass remarks and ignore the media frenzy. You and I might not like that but we don't matter. If he doesn't deliver it'll be them he answers to.


I'd rather have someone who makes a few gaffs but speaks his mind rather than a smooth talking politician who's so worried about political correctness, that you don't know exactly where they stand on a topic.


For example, why did Obama refuse to use the words 'Radical Islamic terrorists'? That's what ISIS. Why did he pussyfoot around and not call them what they plainly are?
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Nothing going on in Sweden ? Yeah right....

Not seen this in the news tonight... Violent Riots tonight: Riot in Rinkeby, Stockholm, Sweden's Capital.

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/poli...t-stenkastare/

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Monday night police were forced to fire warning shots in Rinkeby.
This after several people started throwing stones at police.
A little later in the evening attacked the police again by the young people.
- You've made two advances where they threw rocks at police, said Lars Bystrom, spokesperson at the Stockholm police.


Photos of the site, one can see how many cars are on fire, and emergency services are on site to extinguish them.
- 7-8 cars have been burned in the area. We move back and forth, it never stands still at such incidents but we have good resources in place, says Lars Bystrom.
According to information are about the emergency services have requested reinforcements from Sollentuna and Brännkyrka.
Not a sniff of this on BBC/Sky News.....
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Not a sniff of this on BBC/Sky News.....
Why would there be, it's barely front page news in Sweden and the only reason you're mentioning it is because the donald made such a mess of things yesterday
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Why would there be, it's barely front page news in Sweden and the only reason you're mentioning it is because the donald made such a mess of things yesterday
Did he? Not aware of any mess except the crap the media hyped up.

Yes I mentioned it because we have been told or are being led to believe all is well in Sweden, which is far from the case.

But then again like a lost sheep, you're going to tell me next all is well in Europe aren't you?
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Did he? Not aware of any mess except the crap the media hyped up.

Yes I mentioned it because we have been told or are being led to believe all is well in Sweden, which is far from the case.

But then again like a lost sheep, you're going to tell me next all is well in Europe aren't you?
No people weren't saying "all is well" that was Donald Trump's exact phrasing on Twitter. What people were saying was first to wonder what Trunp was going on about and then that the Fox News report is flawed.

Now we're going to have constant updates of every crime in Sweden accompanied with demands as to why it's not global news to an attempt to defend the Donald, even lifting the wording of his tweets.
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No people weren't saying "all is well" that was Donald Trump's exact phrasing on Twitter. What people were saying was first to wonder what Trunp was going on about and then that the Fox News report is flawed.

Now we're going to have constant updates of every crime in Sweden accompanied with demands as to why it's not global news to an attempt to defend the Donald, even lifting the wording of his tweets.
Come off it Damien : I don't need to defend him because I don't have an agenda and found nothing that he said a major issue, so no we are not having regular updates on crime in Sweden and by the way, my post was about unrest in Sweden, I never mentioned anything about crime.

As for Trump, as I highlighted already, he certainly did not say "Incident" or "Terror Attack", like the left leaning media would have you believe.

Look at the week long Riots in France last week at the hands of immigrants, footage of burning cars, reports of looting and destroying of property by them, did not get covered if at all, there appears to be an obvious media blackout of big migrant unrest in Europe.
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The more large sections of the media portray Trump entirely negatively, the more it appears they're being highly selective and unfair. It's quite right that any president comes under close scrutiny but I can't remember seeing anything much of a positive tone about his short time in office. It's all a bit of a media feeding frenzy with precious little balance evident in the reporting from what I've seen.

Having said that, I think Trump would be doing himself a big favour if he didn't keep tweeting stuff like some social media obsessed teenager with nothing better to do.

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The more large sections of the media portray Trump entirely negatively, the more it appears they're being highly selective and unfair. It's quite right that any president comes under close scrutiny but I can't remember seeing anything much of a positive tone about his short time in office. It's all a bit of a media feeding frenzy with precious little balance evident in the reporting from what I've seen.
Or they're painting a correct picture of the administration as you say it can appear unfair. Trump has been in office one month and we've had chaos at airports, an executive order overturned by the courts, the resignation of a senior adviser and an investigation into the security practices at one of his resorts after reports he was discussing national security matters in the open.

That's a pretty impressive tally for one month in office. Hell, considering how often Trump had at go at Obama going golfing, Trump has already run up 1/9th of Obama's entire travel budget for his 8 years in one month: http://www.fox25boston.com/news/tren...says/495874271

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His gone to his golf resort three times in one month.

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The more large sections of the media portray Trump entirely negatively, the more it appears they're being highly selective and unfair. It's quite right that any president comes under close scrutiny but I can't remember seeing anything much of a positive tone about his short time in office. It's all a bit of a media feeding frenzy with precious little balance evident in the reporting from what I've seen.
Exactly. It's been "Attack Attack Attack" and Trump is only going to throw it back, when he does, he garners more support, they don't get it that this is HOW he won and most people are not stupid, they see the obvious negative bias.

I completely agree, hold him to account, when he does something wrong, he has said that himself, but the tone has been nothing but negative bias all the time. I don't disagree that he said some stuff since being sworn in that just doesn't hold much weight and he doesn't talk like a typical politician would, but again, his supporters like that, that is what they want.

Yesterday was another fine example, Sky News saying there was going to be 11 Cities in the UK, protesting about Donald Trump, I was not aware of any 11 Protests going on. Also they seem intent on heavily promoting such demos. They heavily promoted the Petition to stop his State Visit, but they did not bother with the counter petition, that wanted his State visit to go ahead.

When they did a live shoot on FB, I saw about 10 people huddled in a little group holding a 'Dump Trump' placard, little gaps appeared and it was so obvious, that nobody was there and some of the protesters were trying to hide the obvious fact, very few people were there, it was just those 10 people, news reporter said 'most people have gone home because of the weather."

When reporters ask them why they are protesting, they give the impression they have no idea what they protesting about and they are only protesting because it's become a trend.

Anyway, it was great to see Alex Salmond get a roasting for trying to raise a false 'Point of Order; at yesterday's Petition debate proceedings...

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