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Old 17-02-2017, 00:58   #241
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

I really enjoyed today's press conference. 59 minutes in shows that Trump has got the BBC's bias sussed out.

President Trump Full Press Conference 2/16/17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaYRi6pPDXI
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Old 17-02-2017, 08:38   #242
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I really enjoyed today's press conference. 59 minutes in shows that Trump has got the BBC's bias sussed out.

President Trump Full Press Conference 2/16/17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaYRi6pPDXI
I really didn't enjoy it, it scares me that someone with an ego like his, is running a country.

He does nothing other than to say I'm right, you are wrong and if anyone says He is wrong, it's fake news.

Absolute turd in my opinion.
 
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I really didn't enjoy it, it scares me that someone with an ego like his, is running a country.

He does nothing other than to say I'm right, you are wrong and if anyone says He is wrong, it's fake news.

Absolute turd in my opinion.
Notice how it's never fake news when it praises him or agrees with him
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People should just keep calling him out when he lies. A good moment at that press conference above is when a reporter challenges him on the claim that he had the largest electoral college victory since Reagan: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7584481.html

Now people will say that it's a waste of time. His supporters will claim it's FAKE NEWS and Trump did win the biggest electoral college just as 'he won the popular vote' but those people will never be reached anyway, trying to please them is a waste of time. Everyone else can see from just a cursory glance it's a lie.
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The problem is, almost everyone in the UK seems to be looking at the man rather than his policies, many of which make sense.


Standing up against globalisation and supporting the Sovereign State.


Bringing industry and jobs back to the US, which the globalists outsourced to other countries to take advantage of cheap labour.


Strong borders, which are so needed in these days of radical Islam, and not being afraid to stand up to the politically correct brigade.


Trying to get something done about inner cities, which seems to be being hampered by the Democrats according to the section on that in the speech yesterday.


Trying to get rid of the 'money for access' situation which has been out of control for years in US politics; draining the swamp.


Choosing a supreme court judge who believes in the constitution, rather than an ultra Liberal judge that Hillary would have appointed.


Also his intentions seem to be to stand for traditional moral standards, rather than the politically correct very liberal path that Obama took the US down, and Hillary would have taken further.


And it is essential for the US, to have a President who strongly backs Israel; Obama failed on that, and Hillary would have been the same.


No one denies that Trump is an egotist and, like all of us, has many character flaws, but to me, it is like a breath of fresh air to have a politician who tells it like he sees it.

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People should just keep calling him out when he lies. A good moment at that press conference above is when a reporter challenges him on the claim that he had the largest electoral college victory since Reagan: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7584481.html

Now people will say that it's a waste of time. His supporters will claim it's FAKE NEWS and Trump did win the biggest electoral college just as 'he won the popular vote' but those people will never be reached anyway, trying to please them is a waste of time. Everyone else can see from just a cursory glance it's a lie.

Don't disagree; if he gets something wrong he should be called out on it. He did say several times in the speech that he has no issues with that
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The problem is, almost everyone in the UK seems to be looking at the man rather than his policies, many of which make sense
Exactly right, fuelled by the useless and biased BBC.

Change is never easy, we know that from our brexit experience. The knives are out for President Trump and I hope he continues to bite back.
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"like a well-oiled machine"

Trump's pick for national security adviser turns down offer: White House official
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President Donald Trump's choice for national security adviser, retired Vice Admiral Robert Harward, has turned down the offer, a senior White House official said on Thursday.
Harward was offered the job after Michael Flynn was fired by Trump on Monday for misleading Vice President Mike Pence over his conversations with Russia's ambassador to the United States.
The White House official said Harward cited family and financial reasons for opting not to take the job. Harward is a senior executive at Lockheed Martin.
Two sources familiar with the decision said Harward turned down the job in part because he wanted to bring in his own team.
That put him at odds with Trump, who had told Flynn's deputy, K.T. McFarland, that she could stay.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15V2Z7
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Exactly right, fuelled by the useless and biased BBC.
"There's another beauty."

He got that right.
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Exactly right, fuelled by the useless and biased BBC.

Change is never easy, we know that from our brexit experience. The knives are out for President Trump and I hope he continues to bite back.
Like Jeremy Corbyn, regardless of whether you their policies or not, both he and Donald Trump look like poor leaders. Corbyn's Article 50 strife is mirrored by Trump's failure to appoint his staff and to successfully implement the travel ban. But at least Trump looks like he's trying.
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Like Jeremy Corbyn, regardless of whether you their policies or not, both he and Donald Trump look like poor leaders. Corbyn's Article 50 strife is mirrored by Trump's failure to appoint his staff and to successfully implement the travel ban. But at least Trump looks like he's trying.
Bad analogy to compare two people of which one is unelectable and the other got elected.
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Bad analogy to compare two people of which one is unelectable and the other got elected.
Both are elected party leaders struggling to do their jobs.
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Both are elected party leaders struggling to do their jobs.
One is the leader of the powerful country in the world

One is the leader of a dysfunctional party that currently doesn't know its arse from its elbow.
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Both are elected party leaders struggling to do their jobs.
Nice misconception there, Trump is an elected Head of State, Leader of a Country, voted in by millions, Corbyn is just an elected leader of a party by a few hundred thousand party activists and Labour supporters, big big difference.

Being a liberal and Anti-Trump you're bound to say Trump is struggling, I have seen no evidence of any such thing, he is doing practically everything he said he was that got him elected. I wouldn't call that struggling.

Corbyn's struggles are, that he is deeply unpopular with core Labour Supporters who can no longer support the party with him as the leader, Trump's supporters seem to be very very happy, hence why I feel comparing them as the same is very absurd.

This business of some people being outraged at his Press conference yesterday, so bloody what, that was the Trump I saw, all during the campaign trail. That conference was for his supporters, he is feeding his supporters and they are loving it regardless if he says a few things that are not factually correct, they don't care.

I believe he is holding a massive rally in Florida over the weekend, that will probably be packed to the rafters.
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Nice misconception there, Trump is an elected Head of State, Leader of a Country, voted in by millions, Corbyn is just an elected leader of a party by a few hundred thousand party activists and Labour supporters, big big difference.

Being a liberal and Anti-Trump you're bound to say Trump is struggling, I have seen no evidence of any such thing, he is doing practically everything he said he was that got him elected. I wouldn't call that struggling.

Corbyn's struggles are, that he is deeply unpopular with core Labour Supporters who can no longer support the party with him as the leader, Trump's supporters seem to be very very happy, hence why I feel comparing them as the same is very absurd.

This business of some people being outraged at his Press conference yesterday, so bloody what, that was the Trump I saw, all during the campaign trail. That conference was for his supporters, he is feeding his supporters and they are loving it regardless if he says a few things that are not factually correct, they don't care.

I believe he is holding a massive rally in Florida over the weekend, that will probably be packed to the rafters.
What I'm comparing the two on is delivery and cohesion. Both are lacking in this respect. We've seen Trump's travel ban fail, we've seen national security adviser Michael Flynn being forced to resign over cosy chats with the Russians before gaining power, we've seen the uncertainty over whether his son-in-law can take a position in Government amongst many other travails.
As I said, Trump seems to be trying harder than Corbyn but that doesn't make him effective.
By contrast to Corbyn and Trump, I would cite Theresa May as an effective leader in delivery and cohesion.
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An alternative view of what Trump has done to date.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-has-done.html
 
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