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Old 01-01-2017, 19:04   #3616
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That'll be a neat trick, reminds me of that old adage 'try to please everybody, end up pleasing nobody'

I don't think it's possible to do given that the aims on both sides are entirely opposite.
It is quite possible. We leave the EU and negotiate a free trade agreement instead. Best of both worlds.

Only those stubborn Eurocrats and certain EU politicians may prevent this from happening. Then just watch the unrest that follows as it dawns on everyone the impact on EU exporters the UK's exclusion will have. Then watch this space.
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Old 01-01-2017, 19:11   #3617
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We did that in 75 and ever since - I think we've given enough ground.
What's 1975 got to do with anything apart from the fact the leavers lost because the democratic decision was to remain in the EC by a much larger % than voted to leave this time round ,so there wasn't much if any ground given
 
Old 02-01-2017, 10:33   #3618
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THE people of Hull had the very good sense to vote Brexit by a whopping 70 per cent to 30 per cent. No surprise there. It’s the kind of city that Trump identified. Too many LBs (the Left Behinds) with massive youth unemployment, rundown housing and poor opportunities. Remain had done bugger all for Hull.

People in Hull had the good sense to vote Brexit – and that should be cause for celebration rather than for leftie Beeb staffers to tear them down

But 2017 looks a lot different. It’s the City of Culture this year, which will pump £1.5billion into the area, plus the German manufacturing giant Siemens last year built a windfarm plant to serve the North Sea and employed 1,000 people.

So you would have thought that when the Siemens project director, Finbarr Dowling, came on the Radio 4’s Today programme on Saturday it would be all upbeat and cheery. Not a word of it. Instead, the poorly prepped presenter, Mishal Husain, spent the majority of the interview trying desperately to catch out Mr Dowling with various questions about the city voting one way and Siemens going the other.

She was desperate to trick Siemens programme director Finbarr Dowling into saying something controversial, though he was having none of it – and it was embarrassing. Having seen the transcript, I reckon well over 70 per cent of the interview was given over to attempting to trap Mr Dowling into saying something controversial about the diversity.

He was a good sight cleverer than Ms Husain (not that difficult) as she tried to make the point that the Hull workforce might have a different view on the EU from the management. Mr Dowling knocked it straight back by saying: “That’s the great thing about democracy.”

Then she asked the ill- researched question on how exports might be affected, only to be told that the 28-tonne turbines were for the UK only.
Dowling is managing a Siemens project which will build wind turbines for the UK – and which could actually create British jobs, contrary to Ms Husain’s line of questioning. Finally she fell flat on her face when she suggested Siemens might not invest further in the UK and Mr Dowling was able to reply that, were they to win orders for train rolling stock, they would build new factories in the UK.

One question on Brexit I can understand, but turning over the whole interview was so wrong and indicates the private voting choice of Ms Husain, her editors or the BBC itself.
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I heard this interview and the shocking bias it revealed. Truely aweful. The BBC should apologise to Mr Dowling and the good people of Hull.
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I heard this interview and the shocking bias it revealed. Truely aweful. The BBC should apologise to Mr Dowling and the good people of Hull.
Mmmm an editorial from the Sun, from the same editor responsible for the Hillsborough headlines. Maybe the interviewer did have a bias, but maybe the Sun editor and the interviewee do too..
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Mmmm an editorial from the Sun, from the same editor responsible for the Hillsborough headlines. Maybe the interviewer did have a bias, but maybe the Sun editor and the interviewee do too..
Did you ACTUALLY listen to the interview? I did and Kelvin McKenzie is completely correct in his column.

Perhaps you should understand the message rather then desperately trying to shoot the messenger with your prejudice and small minded posts.
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I heard this interview and the shocking bias it revealed. Truely aweful. The BBC should apologise to Mr Dowling and the good people of Hull.
Ironic that the City of Culture which Hull won is a UK copy of the European City of Culture following the success that the award brought to Liverpool.
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You'll find the interview here at 34m 45 seconds in.
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Well given the bbc has been getting money from the EU not surprising it has a bias to be honest the bbc is nothing but an agenda machine truth only counts when it suits them.
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Well given the bbc has been getting money from the EU not surprising it has a bias to be honest the bbc is nothing but an agenda machine truth only counts when it suits them.
Yes the Beeb is full of communist euro luvvie veggie traitors. Where as the Sun/Express/Mail/Breibart are the voices of truth for the right minded.
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Yes the Beeb is full of communist euro luvvie veggie traitors. Where as the Sun/Express/Mail/Breibart are the voices of truth for the right minded.
To be honest whether its a leftie luvvie or a right wing xenophobic they are both as bad as each other Mr K.
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I heard this interview and the shocking bias it revealed. Truely aweful. The BBC should apologise to Mr Dowling and the good people of Hull.

In fairness though the "good people of Hull" have been the recipients of massive amounts of EU funds and Siemens have been flip flopping since the referendum.As far as BBC bias goes who cares.
 
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I never said anything about the sun or any of that lot not having an agenda or a bias because they do but what they don't have is four billion of citizens money whereas the bbc does and that's why a bias within the bbc is a problem. Now hey if the licence fee is abolished and no money from the people of the UK automatically gets given to the bbc then they can be as low as the others that I don't pay to support.
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I never said anything about the sun or any of that lot not having an agenda or a bias because they do but what they don't have is four billion of citizens money whereas the bbc does and that's why a bias within the bbc is a problem. Now hey if the licence fee is abolished and no money from the people of the UK automatically gets given to the bbc then they can be as low as the others that I don't pay to support.
The Sun and the rest can be as biased as they like because they are private enterprises and you are perfectly correct in that the public money the BBC relies on forces them to be as unbiased as possible and there have been complaints about BBC bias towards remain in the EU debate ,usually from rabid brexiters like the Sun it has to be said .The BBC are in a no win situation, if they question companies like Siemens about their plans post Brexit they are accused of bias if they don't question them they are accused of bias the other way .I personally have found the BBC's reporting on the EU referendum quite fair.
 
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Well the BBC is biased either way depending on who you ask.
E.g.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/polit...reporting/amp/

Everyone is biased one way or another, however in an organisation as big as the BBC it usually balances out. The BBC is maybe the only true independent media we have left. Politicians from all sides have tried to bully it. We'll be sorry when it's gone. Do you trust Murdoch's Sky more?
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Did you ACTUALLY listen to the interview? I did and Kelvin McKenzie is completely correct in his column.

Perhaps you should understand the message rather then desperately trying to shoot the messenger with your prejudice and small minded posts.
In the case of kelvin mckenzie I'd say shooting the messenger is entirely appropriate, everytime no matter what
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