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Old 03-12-2016, 18:56   #3016
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

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In the interest of fairness, can we have some examples where you (and others), as individuals, have been subject to the name calling you are complaining and (over) reacting to?

We can see the large number of posts that you and others are doing this but I am willing to be convinced so where are these many posts that are doing the same thing to you?
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Old 03-12-2016, 20:46   #3017
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Duncan Castles says, “From an @FT comments page. Seems a fair summary and tweet has gone viral with over 4000 retweets & likes, and here’s a full transcript so you can read it easily:

So, this is how the debate reads so far. I kid you not, it’s practically verbatim:

Remainers (left holding the Brexit baby after the Leavers… left) “WTF?”

Leavers “We voted Brexit, now You Remainers need to implement it”

Remainers “But it’s not possible!”

Leavers “The People Have Spoken. Therefore it is possible. You just have to think positively.”

Remainers “And do what exactly?”

Leavers “Come up with a Plan that will leave us all better off outside the EU than in it”

Remainers “But it’s not possible!”

Leavers “Quit with the negative vibes. The People Have Spoken.”

Remainers “But even you don’t know how!”

Leavers “That’s your problem, we’ve done our bit and voted, we’re going to sit here and eat popcorn and watch as you do it.”

Remainers “Shouldn’t you do it?”

Leavers “It’s not up to us to work out the detail, it’s up to you experts.”

Remainers “I thought you’d had enough of experts”

Leavers “Remain experts.”

Remainers “There are no Leave experts”

Leavers “Then you’ll have to do it then. Oh, and by the way, no dragging your feet or complaining about it, because if you do a deal we don’t want, we’ll eat you alive.”

Remainers “But you don’t know what you want!”

Leavers “We want massive economic growth, no migration, free trade with the EU and every other country, on our terms, the revival of British industry, re-open the coal mines, tea and vicars on every village green, some bunting, and maybe restoration of the empire.”

Remainers “You’re delusional.”

Leavers “We’re a delusional majority. DEMOCRACY! So do the thing that isn’t possible, very quickly, and give all Leavers what they want, even though they don’t know what they want, and ignore the 16 million other voters who disagree. They’re tight trouser latte-sipping hipsters who whine all the time, who cares.”

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Old 03-12-2016, 20:58   #3018
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

Yes, it does sum up this thread and the delusions of the 'having their cake and eating it' Brexiteers. Some day the reality will hit them, too late of course.
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Old 03-12-2016, 21:12   #3019
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Does it hell represent us stupid piece of made up rubbish just one more to add to the already large pile.
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Old 03-12-2016, 21:33   #3020
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Why bring that crap from Facebook over here then, no one here has called you names so there's no need to try and drag this place down to the level you're used to

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Does it hell represent us stupid piece of made up rubbish just one more to add to the already large pile.
It does a bit imo, you can actually quote posts from this thread that say bits of it word for word
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Old 03-12-2016, 21:54   #3021
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Does it hell represent us stupid piece of made up rubbish just one more to add to the already large pile.
It was a joke - are you leaving your sense of humour as well as the EU?
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Does it hell represent us stupid piece of made up rubbish just one more to add to the already large pile.
No I am afraid it does
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Old 03-12-2016, 22:54   #3023
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

Yawn. Old and disingenuous. Next?

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Yes, it does sum up this thread and the delusions of the 'having their cake and eating it' Brexiteers. Some day the reality will hit them, too late of course.
The governments "leaked memo" (if it was anything of the sort) mentioned the thing about the cake. Us realistic brexiteers are more realistic and understand that there will be pain. But it will be worth it in the end.

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Why bring that crap from Facebook over here then
Because that's what you remoaners think of us........and how the liberal left have 'talked' to us for years. Hell, Jonathan Pie puts it better than I can.

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It was a joke - are you leaving your sense of humour as well as the EU?
My sense of humour is wearing a little thin in light of remoaners attempts to delay or sabotage brexit.
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:51   #3024
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Because that's what you remoaners think of us........and how the liberal left have 'talked' to us for years. Hell, Jonathan Pie puts it better than I can.
I know in this post brexit utopia facts count for very little but you'd help your cause by getting some right, 10 years ago there were very few people on this forum calling for us to leave the EU and you as far as I can recall weren't one of them, it was sparkle and I that put up with all the flak, I also voted ukip for years, long before it became fashionable and they only lost my support after Dave's assessment that they were clueless fruitcakes started to look more and more accurate. I was very much a swing voter in the referendum and wanted leave to put forward a convincing case to gain my vote as all the reasons I had for wanting us to leave no longer existed. They couldn't and resorted, much like yourself to name calling, their blind optimism, lies and failure to counter any arguments didn't enamour them to me either. So let's hope johnny pie can put it better than you because you didn't make a good job of it at all. Remoaner pffftt
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

Don't confuse leave voters with leave campaigners as the two are very different I've acknowledged many times here that there will be an economic cost in the short to mid term but it will get better and i personally do believe in the end the UK will prosper more out of the EU then in it. That's if the EU even makes it another ten years which i don't think it will as resentment and opposition to it is growing in most member states it is not just the UK that has anti EU feeling. Also anti EU should not be associated or confused for anti european as they are not the same, I'm all for trading with those nations in europe that we can trade with but not by paying into EU coffers.

I also don't want the UK to close the door on immigration just get a far better regime in place so that those we need and who want to come here to contribute can do so even more easily then now but those coming to take out and give nothing back get stopped at whatever point of entry. As for british industry i believe once we can make the trade deals we want and with who we want that issue will resolve itself and India hasn't completely told us to get lost they are quite keen to trade in at least one area.

Return of the empire seriously is there any sensible person that's even muttered that after brexit because I've heard no one even mention the empire outside of historical debates in the last two decades. Bunting yeah right and tea and vicars also a new one for me, looks like somebody has been talking to the fringe lunatic end of leave rather then trying to engage one of the majority sensible leave voters and lets not pretend the remain side don't have their lunatic fringe who even now given the chance would take us into the single currency.

There has been name calling on both sides and whatever side it is doing it is not helping even though I'm sure I've used the term remoaner, but the patronising and arrogant view has been far more evident on remain then leave. Lets not kid ourselves the EU referendum and the continuing stupidity afterwards has made both sides look pretty bad and no one side has any moral high ground to take in that regard.
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Why bring that crap from Facebook over here then, no one here has called you names so there's no need to try and drag this place down to the level you're used to
I find it very sad that some are people may be so impacted by their friends' comments on Facebook that they feel the need to let off steam by name-calling in a totally separate discussion forum.
If you believe in yourself and your arguments then ignore such comments on Facebook. And if peoples' Facebook friends don't respect their views or simply wind them up, then they should consider defriending them.

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There are no benefits of growth opportunity that we could identify from leaving the EU.
As a cross-border operator, our fixed costs are already very high, and in many instances the business case is marginal. Any additional cost, small as it might seem, would only add to these costs and risks either raising prices for passengers or, if the market cannot bear such increases, making the operation unsustainable in its present form. [/no]
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Yawn. Old and disingenuous. Next?

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The governments "leaked memo" (if it was anything of the sort) mentioned the thing about the cake. Us realistic brexiteers are more realistic and understand that there will be pain. But it will be worth it in the end.

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Because that's what you remoaners think of us........and how the liberal left have 'talked' to us for years. Hell, Jonathan Pie puts it better than I can.

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My sense of humour is wearing a little thin in light of remoaners attempts to delay or sabotage brexit.
It was first tweeted 2 weeks ago, but thank you for your Breitbartian 'post-truth' rebuttal...

Not for the majority of posters on this forum, it isn't, and for you to conflate your experiences on FB with this forum, and reacting the way you are, is, to use your own words, disingenuous...

It's like if you go to one pub for a beer, and there's a bunch of anti-social twits who give you a hard time, so when you are at another pub where no one is behaving that way, you treat them as if they are the original group - that soon becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, if you're not careful...
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Everyone is responsible for how they treat each other. You can't blame others for your own actions.

Anyway back on topic. Johnson is playing down the idea of continuing to make EU payments: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38200112

It's not clear because by definition overpaying to the EU would be paying too much but if we pay the correct amount that seems fine
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The correct amount being zero. I have no problem with that.
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If Theresa May gets her way, the correct amount will be whatever amount furthers her political career. No more, no less.
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