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Old 22-02-2017, 23:58   #16
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Re: Undercover at Deliveroo - the reality of being a self-employed rider

Pip, l have worked for companies that have got round contracts. I worked for a major company. And they changed a contract overnight and it cosy me £600.00

Major companies will find a way round a contract, if they know they will lose money.

Don't know whether you know this, but a contract is NOT worth the paper its typed on.

In my employments over the past 40years. I have seen the bad sign of companies - plus the good ones.

I can always remember a great company l worked for. And l had only been with the company for six months, before they sold out to another major firm. They gave me the same entitlement's as everyone else.

And was invited to travel to Norfolk where they moved to ALL EXPENSES PAID. You don't get many companies doing that - do you.
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Re: Undercover at Deliveroo - the reality of being a self-employed rider

stick to the topic please and stop the personal comments.

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But if it's in a contract and you don't read it, then that is your fault.

Also if it's not illegal then they aren't doing anything wrong. I guess it's a dodgy loophole of sorts that needs to be tidied up.
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Re: Undercover at Deliveroo - the reality of being a self-employed rider

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Pip, l have worked for companies that have got round contracts. I worked for a major company. And they changed a contract overnight and it cosy me £600.00

Major companies will find a way round a contract, if they know they will lose money.

Don't know whether you know this, but a contract is NOT worth the paper its typed on.

In my employments over the past 40years. I have seen the bad sign of companies - plus the good ones.

I can always remember a great company l worked for. And l had only been with the company for six months, before they sold out to another major firm. They gave me the same entitlement's as everyone else.

And was invited to travel to Norfolk where they moved to ALL EXPENSES PAID. You don't get many companies doing that - do you.

I hope you took them to court then Arthur

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles...ent-conditions


At some stage your employer or you might want to change your contract of employment. However, neither you or your employer can change your employment contract without each others' agreement. ... collective agreement - this is a negotiation between your employer and a trade union or staff association.


Or is this more (than likely) utter twaddle ?
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Re: Undercover at Deliveroo - the reality of being a self-employed rider

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Strictly speaking I'm not self employed but employed by the company that I own. I could sack myself.
Ditto.

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That's correct ,the rules for limited company owners and sole traders are different and one of the reasons i won't set up a limited company is because it gets so bloody complicated ,staying as a sole trader suits me just fine
The downside being that if the company fails, any creditors could come after your personal assets to settle any debt.

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At some stage your employer or you might want to change your contract of employment. However, neither you or your employer can change your employment contract without each others' agreement. ... collective agreement - this is a negotiation between your employer and a trade union or staff association.
Correct, if the employee does not agree to any new contract, they do not have to accept it.

However, the employer may then decide to dispense with the employees services and bring someone in that will agree to the terms of the new contract.

In times of high unemployment this is effectively a hobson's choice for the employee.
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