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Old 02-05-2012, 20:06   #16
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re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)

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I've got a VPS in the UK which I've installed OpenVPN on and that works. I've also got a VPN in another country and that works.

Guess it's the push I needed to cancel. I hardly bother with the place but it's the principle.
If your talking of cancelling VM, then most other UK ISPs, certainly the big ones, are all having to do the blocking. It's not exactly something the ISPs are doing by choice.
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Old 02-05-2012, 20:11   #17
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If your talking of cancelling VM, then most other UK ISPs, certainly the big ones, are all having to do the blocking. It's not exactly something the ISPs are doing by choice.
Yeah, I know, but at least BT have held out for a little longer.

It's really just the straw that ... with the recent traffic limits and the fact I haven't long had Infinity installed ... I was going to wait and see what the 120MB would be like when they eventually give me that but I guess this is a good time to leave and make at least make some sort of statement while doing so LOL
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Old 02-05-2012, 20:24   #18
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Old 02-05-2012, 20:31   #19
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re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)

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[Admin Edit:Link removed]
pressumably VM have only been ordered block [Admin Edit: Link Removed] and not any address they feel like (i.e the one above)
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Interesting. Smacks of transparent proxy, which is going to slow everyone and everything down.
No, it's using the same thing as the IWF filter, advertising the address of the site as a /32 from the filter. Won't affect anything bar filtered IP addresses.

Tracing route to [Admin Edit: Link Removed] [194.71.107.XX]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms CISCOE4200 [192.168.10.1]
2 29 ms 11 ms 9 ms cpc8-mort6-2-0-gw.croy.cable.virginmedia.com [82.43.108.1]
3 9 ms 6 ms 7 ms mort-geam-1a-ge216.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.225.157]
4 28 ms 12 ms 19 ms croy-core-1b-tenge83.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.242.57]
5 20 ms 15 ms 8 ms croy-core-2b-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.86]
6 21 ms 105 ms 44 ms popl-bb-1b-ae10-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.226.5]
7 26 ms 22 ms 17 ms leed-bb-1a-as1-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.237]
8 18 ms 19 ms 48 ms know-core-1a-pc200.network.virginmedia.net [195.82.178.146]
9 19 ms 25 ms 27 ms wb7301a.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.0.204]

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GET / HTTP/1.1

Host: [Admin Edit: Link Removed]

Connection: keep-alive

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.162 Safari/535.19

Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8

Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch

Accept-Language: en-GB,en-US;q=0.8,en;q=0.6

Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.3

Cookie: language=en_EN



HTTP/1.1 302 Found

Location: http://my.virginmedia.com/site-blocked.html

Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8



<HTML><HEAD><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">
<TITLE>302 Moved</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>
<H1>302 Moved</H1>
The document has moved
<A HREF="http://my.virginmedia.com/site-blocked.html">here</A>
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302 Found

The requested resource resides temporarily under a different URI. Since the redirection might be altered on occasion, the client SHOULD continue to use the Request-URI for future requests. This response is only cacheable if indicated by a Cache-Control or Expires header field.
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Old 02-05-2012, 20:53   #21
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pressumably VM have only been ordered block [Link removed] and not any address they feel like (i.e the one above)
This is why it's so worrying and it is the start of a censored internet that is heading to the UK.

This just proves how useless trying to censor the internet is and why people who don't fully understand it should not be making laws.
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Old 02-05-2012, 21:02   #22
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This is why it's so worrying and it is the start of a censored internet is heading to the UK.

This just proves how useless trying to censor the internet is and why people who don't fully understand it should not be making laws.
excellant article in your link and kind of hits the nail firmly on the head
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re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)

Slightly of topic but relevant.

At work yesterday we were talking about this type of thing, and the UK are possibly going to block all adult XXX rated sights, apparently to protect our children from watch porn.

OK block the illegal stuff, but if I want to watch porn surely its my right.
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Slightly of topic but relevant.

At work yesterday we were talking about this type of thing, and the UK are possibly going to block all adult XXX rated sights, apparently to protect our children from watch porn.

OK block the illegal stuff, but if I want to watch porn surely its my right.
There are a wide variety of proposals on the table, but none of them involve banning porn outright. They're really just proposing that new customers would have to choose whether to have the content blocked (as happens with mobile internet now) individually.

The main argument is about whether the block would be on by default (requiring users to "opt-in" to porn and other content), off by default (requiring customers to turn on the filter) and whether it should apply to existing customers. The current popular choice is making the decision to opt in or out mandatory when signing up for the broadband service.
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I'd get rid of them links before... comes in. :P
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There are a wide variety of proposals on the table, but none of them involve banning porn outright. They're really just proposing that new customers would have to choose whether to have the content blocked (as happens with mobile internet now) individually.

The main argument is about whether the block would be on by default (requiring users to "opt-in" to porn and other content), off by default (requiring customers to turn on the filter) and whether it should apply to existing customers. The current popular choice is making the decision to opt in or out mandatory when signing up for the broadband service.
Presumably this block option will be for violent content and online games as well since violence is a far worse example for children than sex, I think all sane people would agree. Sites with gambling, alchohol and drugs references would obviously be higher up the ban list too of course. Will there be separate options for all these things or will it be a single on/off 'Government Nanny' button that covers everything bad?

I hope the options will be separate. That way we get to bring up our children the way we think is right which is clearly what the government is doing this for. Let's hope they don't simplify it too much so we can focus on filtering out the stuff that's really nasty instead of fretting about a few boobs and a bit of bonking.
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I think the whole thing is a farce, The EU courts have already said in the past that such web blocks are not lawful (I am pretty sure) The ISP's that have been asked to block the pirate bay should make an appeal to the EU courts together.

Infact here is an article from late last year:

"Internet service providers (ISPs) cannot be forced to block or monitor web users' online activity, the European Court of Justice has ruled.

The ruling means that record companies and film studios cannot use court action to coerce broadband providers into policing known piracy websites...."
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...urt-rules.html

so technically said web block ordered by the high court is breaking the law.
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Old 02-05-2012, 22:46   #28
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While it might only be the council elections tomorrow, I think this is generating a lot of free publicity for the Pirate Party right ahead of the elections.

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Here is a few which should get you there,

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Since TPB is a surprisingly low traffic site (not a lot of images, no video content, not actually hosting the raw data) it's also incredibly easy to mirror.
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I wonder why it was TPB that was targeted first. Perhaps because it's the best known? There are scores of torrent trackers to choose from.
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I think the whole thing is a farce, The EU courts have already said in the past that such web blocks are not lawful (I am pretty sure) The ISP's that have been asked to block the pirate bay should make an appeal to the EU courts together.

Infact here is an article from late last year:

"Internet service providers (ISPs) cannot be forced to block or monitor web users' online activity, the European Court of Justice has ruled.

The ruling means that record companies and film studios cannot use court action to coerce broadband providers into policing known piracy websites...."
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...urt-rules.html

so technically said web block ordered by the high court is breaking the law.
well VM are complying as of today

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...k-virgin-media

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Customers of the country's second-biggest internet service provider (ISP), Virgin Media, were on Wednesday denied access to site. Other internet providers, including BT and Sky, are expected to follow suit within weeks
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