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Old 28-02-2012, 12:09   #46
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

Hugh germany have strong unions and they still have a decent manufacturing base.
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Old 28-02-2012, 12:31   #47
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And how are all those industries that had strong unions, such as British Leyland, mining, steel, etc?
That was caused by underinvestment, high energy prices and the decline of Britain's power!!!

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Ballcocks,

The company isn't in a position to award a pay increase, it needs to keep it's cash reserves at an appropriate level and it is also investing heavily in it infrastructure to enable it to keep competeing in the future.

If there was a union that tried to impose a pay award, it would weaken the company and would probably damage the company and affect its ability to compete and make profits which would result in job losses or worse.

People such as yourself really wind me up, you have no clue.
So why some companies are giving out large dividends then, also the government should be investing into the economy!
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Old 28-02-2012, 14:43   #48
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The reason there are pay freezes is that union power has been weakened!
Even more rubbish. I have been informed i am getting a pay rise and the Union had nothing to do with it.
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Even more rubbish. I have been informed i am getting a pay rise and the Union had nothing to do with it.
Yes, but a lot of people will not, take Tube Driver for example, they have strong unions and they are reciving may rises!
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Old 28-02-2012, 15:04   #50
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And how are all those industries that had strong unions, such as British Leyland, mining, steel, etc?

I can answer that ......what industries ......the unions killed them

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Hugh germany have strong unions and they still have a decent manufacturing base.
Germany also produce quality goods ,British Leyland for example ,produced a pile of crap for top wages

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Yes, but a lot of people will not, take Tube Driver for example, they have strong unions and they are reciving may rises!
And look at how high the wages are compared to the skill set required to do the job and the disruption caused by the unions in gaining such high wages
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I can answer that ......what industries ......the unions killed them



Germany also produce quality goods ,British Leyland for example ,produced a pile of crap for top wages



And look at how high the wages are compared to the skill set required to do the job and the disruption caused by the unions in gaining such high wages
The Unions did not kill those industries, underinvestment, bad management and bad products did, along with rising competition and the decline of Britain’s power!!

The Reason there is disruption on the tube is that the GLA would rather have a fight with the unions rather than co-operate with them!!
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The Unions did not kill those industries, underinvestment, bad management and bad products did, along with rising competition and the decline of Britain’s power!!

The Reason there is disruption on the tube is that the GLA would rather have a fight with the unions rather than co-operate with them!!
stop talking twoddle and go back to fairyland
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stop talking twoddle and go back to fairyland
Why don'y you go back to your Ultra-Weathy Feudal dreamland they you live in!
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Because it's the Tory governments that have to pick up the financial armageddon that socialists always leave behind with unfunded pay rises and spending sprees.
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I haven't had a pay rise in 4 years this year will be 5 last Christmas we didn't get a Christmas bonus we lost our overtime we had to exept 10% pay cut

Last week I was told work extra hours longer but didn't get paid their was a report by the trade unions few weeks ago. 1milion hours of over time are worked in the uk without pay
The owner has just comeback from a sking holiday and company director just came back from Italy nice holiday
These days the worker has no rights at all
It's either you exept the cuts or you loose your job plain and simple
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I haven't had a pay rise in 4 years this year will be 5 last Christmas we didn't get a Christmas bonus we lost our overtime we had to exept 10% pay cut

Last week I was told work extra hours longer but didn't get paid their was a report by the trade unions few weeks ago. 1milion hours of over time are worked in the uk without pay
The owner has just comeback from a sking holiday and company director just came back from Italy nice holiday
These days the worker has no rights at all
It's either you exept the cuts or you loose your job plain and simple
It is about time we have stronger unions and the abolish all Anti-Trade Union Laws and create far more Pro-Trade Union Laws!
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The Reason there is disruption on the tube is that the GLA would rather have a fight with the unions rather than co-operate with them!!
So are you saying we should capitulate every time the union demands something ?

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It is about time we have stronger unions and the abolish all Anti-Trade Union Laws and create far more Pro-Trade Union Laws!
I forgot how idiotic your posts are.

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So are you saying we should capitulate every time the union demands something ?

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I forgot how idiotic your posts are.

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Well until Unions demand Rolls-Royce cars and 7 figure+ salaries, i do not see why we should not capitulate every time the union demands something!!
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Well until Unions demand Rolls-Royce cars and 7 figure+ salaries, i do not see why we should not capitulate every time the union demands something!!


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The only one posting crazy ideas is people who defend a failed social and economic system!!
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