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Re: Unemployment is rising
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What would it be for you?
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Perhaps we will have to wait till 2020 for you to actually give us a answer to the question Hugh and others asked.
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15-03-2012, 10:28
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Re: Unemployment is rising
Alan - no, I am asking you for the area you live in....
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15-03-2012, 10:31
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Re: Unemployment is rising
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Alan - no, I am asking you for the area you live in....
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But it will be different depending on the area you live in, and the lifestyle you're accustomed to.
how much do you need so we can compare it to Alan's?
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15-03-2012, 10:36
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Re: Unemployment is rising
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Alan - no, I am asking you for the area you live in....
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You mean Hampsted?
That will mean I will have to ask people like this couple
Her husband is very keen on her privacy and even she is not exactly going to give info on what she buys at the local shop to a stranger is she 
What I do know is that are worth £120 Million
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15-03-2012, 10:39
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Re: Unemployment is rising
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You mean Hampsted?
That will mean I will have to ask people like this couple
Her husband is very keen on her privacy and even she is not exactly going to give info on what she buys at the local shop to a stranger is she
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Strange how you can't spell where you allegedly live......- 
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15-03-2012, 10:45
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Re: Unemployment is rising
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Strange how you can't spell where you allegedly live......- |
House prices have sharply risen since I bought a house there, sory about the spelling mistake
But you can see how hard my job would be asking people how much you need to earn to get a comfortable lifestyle, but I would think they would earn more than enough
By the way are you close personal friends with Charles Saatchi?
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15-03-2012, 13:15
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Alan, what you need to understand is that living comfortably is not earning a wage to be able to have everything you want but being able to actually meet your needs from what you do earn.
Maybe you are very well off or from a wealthy family so haven't seen the realities of life but the truth is, and any introductory micro economics book will confirm this, that there are only finite resources for infinite wants. People have to make do. Not just now or since the recession but since forever. Its how people have always lived.
I'm sorry but your assertions in this thread have been ridiculous.
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Re: Unemployment is rising
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Alan, what you need to understand is that living comfortably is not earning a wage to be able to have everything you want but being able to actually meet your needs from what you do earn.
Maybe you are very well off or from a wealthy family so haven't seen the realities of life but the truth is, and any introductory micro economics book will confirm this, that there are only finite resources for infinite wants. People have to make do. Not just now or since the recession but since forever. Its how people have always lived.
I'm sorry but your assertions in this thread have been ridiculous.
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My family cosists of Middle Class people from India (My parents), but me and my family have a rather humble background, unlike this person
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and for god sake I have seen realities of life (unlike a lot of CF users)
It is about time more people got a decent salary (enough for a comfotable lifestyle), capitalism and democracy is not working and needs reform, yes there is finite resources, but more of it should be with us and not the rich, business and poltical elite
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15-03-2012, 15:54
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Re: Unemployment is rising
I blame the outmoded political and economic system........
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15-03-2012, 16:01
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Re: Unemployment is rising
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It is ludicrous to expect to be paid a wage in a Mac Job that would give enough money to own a house, car, fancy TV etc. If the burger bar paid that wage then it would be so collossally expensive to eat there that most could not afford it and the joint would go out of busness pronto.
@Alan before you make the ridiculous assertion, as I KNOW you will, that everybody will be soo well paid that they would be able to afford it, go and look up inflation.
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15-03-2012, 16:43
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Re: Unemployment is rising
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My family cosists of Middle Class people from India (My parents), but me and my family have a rather humble background, unlike this person
and for god sake I have seen realities of life (unlike a lot of CF users)
It is about time more people got a decent salary (enough for a comfotable lifestyle), capitalism and democracy is not working and needs reform, yes there is finite resources, but more of it should be with us and not the rich, business and poltical elite |
You do realise that when /if you ever have children (god forbid) they will come from the same sort of back ground as all the wealthy people that you insist are the spawn of the devil
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15-03-2012, 16:50
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Re: Unemployment is rising
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You do realise that when /if you ever have children (god forbid) they will come from the same sort of back ground as all the wealthy people that you insist are the spawn of the devil
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I do have children and hopefully grandchildren, Paris Hilton is a great grand-daughter of the person who made the family rich
I am not a rich person, but a fairly well off person, while the Hiltons are worth billions
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I am not a rich person, but a fairly well off person, while the Hiltons are worth billions
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non-specific answers rears its ugly head again....
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Re: Unemployment is rising
The problem is that in order to generate growth you need to have lots of workers.
Unfortunately,firms cannot afford to employ enough workers firstly because workers cost too much and secondly because managers have been overpaid disproportionately since 1997 at least.
The result is that though workers are better paid there are fewer of them and they have to work a lot harder to maintain output and growth.
What we need to is to redress the pay balance so that outgoings are reduced and wealth is more equally distributed thereby allowing firms to employ the maximum number of workers it can afford on a reasonable wage and reduce the workload on each worker to a less stressful but more productive level.
Having high wages is not much good if you also have high prices and a stressful work-style to go with it.
Given the state of our overpriced economy and the various black holes in government funds especially pensions, we as a nation need to be looking at ways to make the cost of government, industry and commerce a lot less.
China got all the work by having the cheapest costs. Workers need to realize that it is better to be paid a moderate wage and have a job than to demand a higher wage and have no job. Even the banks are getting rid of staff now, all in pursuit of profits.
Unemployment will continue to rise because as costs rise fewer workers can be employed and currently there is no cohesive plan involving government, employers, unions and workers to drive down costs in a systematic manner which also protects the most vulnerable in society.
What we need from government and the heads of industry and commerce is leadership by example but sadly this has been lacking.Before long, there will be insufficient people working and then the leaders will not be able to pay themselves the big salaries, pensions and bonuses they do at present because the money will just not be there. Worse, all the unemployed will be looking round for someone to blame and we all know where the fingers will be pointed.
It's time for some action now before it is too late.
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15-03-2012, 16:58
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Re: Unemployment is rising
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I do have children and hopefully grandchildren, Paris Hilton is a great grand-daughter of the person who made the family rich
I am not a rich person, but a fairly well off person, while the Hiltons are worth billions
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You don't know if you have grandchildren?
On a more serious note, what do you mean by 'fairly well off', please - capital assets, properties, salary levels, or what?
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