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June 8th General Election
View Poll Results: Who would you vote for on 8th June?
Conservatives 47 48.96%
Labour 24 25.00%
Liberal Democrats 9 9.38%
UKIP 4 4.17%
Greens 2 2.08%
Other 5 5.21%
None, I will Abstain. 5 5.21%
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Old 10-05-2017, 14:51   #451
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Correct and anyone who had their eyes open and brain switched on in the 1970's will already know that. Not being a great student of political history, I have no idea when their nastiness really started but it hasn't gone away - scratch the surface and it's alive and prospering with Corbyn and McDonnell at the helm.
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A draft of Labour's general election manifesto has been leaked, including plans to nationalise the energy industry and scrap tuition fees.
The BBC has seen a copy of the document, which has not yet been formally signed off, with the Mirror and the Daily Telegraph also reporting details.
These include nationalising railways, bus firms and the Royal Mail and renewing the Trident weapons system.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39877439

I imagine they'll claim it'll all be paid for by increasing taxes on companies and the rich - the very people who can easily shift themselves and their money elsewhere...

Same old Labour garbage.
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Nationalising the trains, the buses, Royal Mail, the gas and the electricity ... paid for with what, exactly?
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Here's Harpersons's hubby Jack Dromey explaining to Andrew Neil just how much Labour's corporation tax changes will bring in:

https://order-order.com/2017/05/10/j...ax-rise-bring/



Can someone explain why anyone would vote for these people.
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I wonder who's going to vote for Labour?

apart from everybody.
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Nationalising the trains, the buses, Royal Mail, the gas and the electricity ... paid for with what, exactly?
All that vastly overstated corporation tax revenue they've already spent many times over.



Funny how Labour are acutely aware of the problem of so called tax havens which attract businesses by imposing lower rates of CT but don't seem to think that UK businesses would do the very same thing.
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Did anyone get a letter from Theresa begging for their vote?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39877439

I imagine they'll claim it'll all be paid for by increasing taxes on companies and the rich - the very people who can easily shift themselves and their money elsewhere...

Same old Labour garbage.

I think essential services should be publicly owned, So Rail, Energy, post and transport should be. To me it's a really dangerous move for the Chinese to be involved in the Hinkley Point software.


There isn't enough money in the pot to do it at the moment, Maybe May will add it to her 'to do in the future' list, now that she has dipped her toe in the state intervention game with energy prices I won't hold my breath though
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I think essential services should be publicly owned, So Rail, Energy, post and transport should be. To me it's a really dangerous move for the Chinese to be involved in the Hinkley Point software.


There isn't enough money in the pot to do it at the moment, Maybe May will add it to her 'to do in the future' list, now that she has dipped her toe in the state intervention game with energy prices I won't hold my breath though
Remember the days of British Rail and the GPO do you?
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Did anyone get a letter from Theresa begging for their vote?
l did and like the other parties it was full of tripe , tripe and even more tripe so like the others it went in the bin..
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Steven Hawkins once said that only time travel to the past would be possible, Labours manifesto intends to prove that statement by taking us back to the 70's.
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Remember the days of British Rail and the GPO do you?
Other countries manage to have decent nationalised rail, some of them even own some of our franchises as well, and we also had to nationalise the track part after Railtrack after it collapsed and after there was a series of safety disasters. Even America has a nationalised rail network.

I don't think we should nationalise most things but rail is a natural monopoly. There any only be one provider for a given route so the intended benefits of privatisation, i.e competition, doesn't really work. The companies given franchises and there is little incentive for long term investment and they rarely get badly punished for poor performance.

To me it seems almost a religious obsession with either nationalisation or privatisation. People pick a side and then think everything should be one or the other. Privatisation his good because is good and more efficient no matter what it's applied too.
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Remember the days of British Rail and the GPO do you?

I'm talking about essential national services only. We live in uncertain times. Our essential infrastructure should not dependant on the ownership by foreign countries.


This is nothing to do with any form of political philosophy,
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Steven Hawkins once said that only time travel to the past would be possible, Labours manifesto intends to prove that statement by taking us back to the 70's.
If you want a vision of Britain after 5 years of Corbyn think Venezuela but without oil.
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Steven Hawkins once said that only time travel to the past would be possible, Labours manifesto intends to prove that statement by taking us back to the 70's.
why so negative on the plus side we only worked 3 days a week and only had to sit in the dark some of the time .
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