Local elections 2012

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by Angua

Agree with this. They have only looked at costs not the consequences. So have cut where things are very cost effective creating even more cost later.

I think they have carefully looked at the consequences but only to make sure their will be little impact on themselves or the rich.

It would seem the rest of us (the cannon fodder) are just left to stumble on, in the Britain they broke, as best we can.

I know this is always the case but I think this might be the only time that some posh twit has laughably commented that "We are all in it together" and been arrogantly stupid enough to think anybody would believe him.

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

I think they have carefully looked at the consequences but only to make sure their will be little impact on themselves or the rich.

It would seem the rest of us (the cannon fodder) are just left to stumble on, in the Britain they broke, as best we can.

I know this is always the case but I think this might be the only time that some posh twit has laughably commented that "We are all in it together" and been arrogantly stupid enough to think anybody would believe him.

Stupid thing is we all ALL have to pay later due to short-sighted bean counting now.

I must admit despite being broadly a Labour supporter in general hardly any of the councillors in my area which returned to Labour this time offer anything over the conservatives,or Lib Dems when they were in power last time, the Labour council privatised the manual workforce ie council home maintenance,road cleaning ect ect,which is exactly what the conservatives would have done.!

For all their faults in the past local councillors i have known had real conviction be they Labour, Conservative, or Liberal, nowadays none of the above is my real choice until some conviction enters uk politics once more.

You honestly could not put a cigarette paper between them and the real loser is democracy, as people like me an ordinary man in the street who once had an interest in politics hold up our hands in despair.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Lets look at it this way, Cameron and Clegg got a kick in the nuts - plain and simple.

The only good thing that came out of it was that Boris won the Mayor of London, and people are saying he could be the next PM, don't make me laugh.

Cameron and Clegg got what they deserved, and about 60 per cent of the public didn't vote.

Cameron said that he was sorry for the councillors that lost there seats, but this was caused by there leader's incompetence in running this country has brought this upon the votes, and bringing so much heartache to this country.

I reckon that within the next six months there will be an general election, as l cannot see the big boys, that can force a new leader election standing for this.

It will be the same as what happened to that old woman, she was forced to resign

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Lets look at it this way, Cameron and Clegg got a kick in the nuts - plain and simple.

The only good thing that came out of it was that Boris won the Mayor of London, and people are saying he could be the next PM, don't make me laugh.

Cameron and Clegg got what they deserved, and about 60 per cent of the public didn't vote.

Cameron said that he was sorry for the councillors that lost there seats, but this was caused by there leader's incompetence in running this country has brought this upon the votes, and bringing so much heartache to this country.

I reckon that within the next six months there will be an general election, as l cannot see the big boys, that can force a new leader election standing for this.

It will be the same as what happened to that old woman, she was forced to resign

You do live in a world of make believe don't you Arthur

[Hom3r]

In my town the Tory had a case of whoop ass.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Delighted to see the coalition being appropriately punished for their incompetence.

Doubly delighted to see the Liberal Democrats suffer so much. They've shown themselves completely Nick will be in full-on panic mode trying to look for something, anything, to throw his supporters.

I think his resignation would be the best idea to be honest.]

Not sure his resignation is enough to appease me right now, him being thrown to lions would help though

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Not sure his resignation is enough to appease me right now, him being thrown to lions would help though

or a pack of hungry stoodents

[danielf]

I'm not sure if anyone should be pleased with the demise of the LibDems. Are we really happy with a two-party system and politics that mainly consists of slagging off the other party? I think we could do with more diversity, and as a consequence, more consensus based politics.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

or a pack of hungry stoodents

Same difference, he'll be gently mauled and consumed either way

[Tezcatlipoca]

I've seen speculation online claiming that the Government is going to go back on issues such as gay marriage and reform of the House of Lords.

Allegedly, some Tories think the party did so badly in the local elections because they're not conservative enough

Arthur. I have a feeling hat this might make interesting reading (vis a vis) a General Election within six months.

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/c...snpc-00831.pdf

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Matt D

I've seen speculation online claiming that the Government is going to go back on issues such as gay marriage and reform of the House of Lords.

Allegedly, some Tories think the party did so badly in the local elections because they're not conservative enough

Yes - they're so busy trying to be cool, progressive and appeal to the Islington crew that they're not actually getting the job done.

This group aren't conservative they're corporatist, cowardly and pander to vested interests.

Being socially liberal and economically conservative is, of course, the way to go. These guys do neither, managing to both annoy those who are liberally minded socially and simultaneously frustrate those conservatively minded economically.

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Matt D

I've seen speculation online claiming that the Government is going to go back on issues such as gay marriage and reform of the House of Lords.

Allegedly, some Tories think the party did so badly in the local elections because they're not conservative enough

what got me these conservative MP's was even those cowards like our MP who literally wet drip. Showed courage to condem cameron say they was not conservative enough. These usually those so scared to say boo to strong leader they cower kiss feet and backside. When that happens its free for all fight. Look how weak thatcher was when infighting started she showed fraility when guard dropped. Major could never stop it as he was wet drip anyway. Cameron flag half mast he clearly not strong enough to hold off vultures.

If this carries on cameron is gone litally he already had the warning shots from that group which is very powerful. This party which literally panicking. Cameron might weather this disaster but one more mistake if his leverson enquiry not convincing show he gone. Cameron cup final very soon me thinks. Who will get the job god knows probs one of the previous ones IDS, Howard. They may go for populist trick Clarke, Davis. I doubt they go for new kid on the block its been imitigating distaster.

On clegg they may as well burn bridges now they economy failed its does not matter if its eurozone cause more harm coalisiton failed to keep economy ticking as policies caused more harm. We should increased minimum wake more tried to get consumer confidence to spend (not credit).

There no reason for Lib Dems staying anymore they will break they have too to littally stop hemoraging. I fancy it will split soon talk is old liberals planning revolt from demecrats. I dont know what sort numbers this involves but it will weaken coalisition. Think got it right way round know one dont want to be blamed for the others failures.

By using there retric hate machine they took too much out of the economy which harmed it. Nobody saying we needed tightening belts but squeeze the right end not the wrong. Try stimulas policies not ones which retoric pet hates. Take persecusion of disabled the so called true disabled will be alright lies. The peddling of retoric hate. Giving ATOS targets look press from ministers on DLA aim to get 20%. Will this be hook and crook. Its stupid all this money out the economy its not saving anything its taken it out.

Nobody denies get the fruadster but not by moving goalposts hurting genuine disabled.

Coalition not totally blame merve the swerve can take alot blame too.

We should not been paraniod to keep interest rates low let it slip abit. Ok people could not afford extra on mortages but should not be running so tight to the wind with incomes.

My thinking is If we was to tank wages then standard living had to be tanked too. We was hoping market forces would bring utilities and oil prices down but wont as invesors are inflating it. We got ween them off it take stricter control on utilities pricing. Not easy task to either.

The housing idea was stupid will just turn us back ready for another false economy & housing boom. Last thing we need right now is housing bubble.

Maybe to bust housing those pre-pack homes should had tax exemption to encourage this new markets growth. Build load cheap housing rental with it. Recoup the investment from the housing rents. Cheap rental cheap to build and cheap homes will surely drive down private rental and housing markets.

Just few ideas no means perfect not chancellor but I see the way things been done caused self harm.

I do wonder if removing Osborne and giving Clarke the job might recover ground and damage but his performance with rambalings shows he aged.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

The people in local elections have voiced there opinion of what is happening in this country today.

The people are fed up with ' so called promises' that have not been kept, I firmly believe that there will be a motion in parliament of no confidence in Cameron or Clegg, and you must remember Clegg was totally humilated by the voter, can you imagine what the Lib Dems must think of him.

Since the coalition came into power, they have introduced more stupid taxes that ARE effecting the people, The pasty tax, granny tax, this is an easy way that the government make money out of us.

The next tax on the agenda will be the Sandwich tax, the the British breakfast tax.

NOT once has Cameron or Clegg said sorry to the British public for what we are going through - this is why the public will keep kicking them where it hurts.