[Updated]Abu Qatada finally deported to Jordan
17-01-2012, 16:28
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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But he is not a human rights, democracy activist or a refugee, so he has no reason not to be deported!
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Only according to your warped concept of what constitutes human rights! 
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17-01-2012, 16:33
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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Only according to your warped concept of what constitutes human rights! |
How is he a human rights activist?  He is at the very least a criminal, evading justice. I think what was originally meant was '(human rights or democracy) activist or a refugee'.
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17-01-2012, 16:52
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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How is he a human rights activist? He is at the very least a criminal, evading justice. I think what was originally meant was '(human rights or democracy) activist or a refugee'. |
That is what I am saying!
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17-01-2012, 17:14
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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How is he a human rights activist? He is at the very least a criminal, evading justice. I think what was originally meant was '(human rights or democracy) activist or a refugee'. |
Alan earlier indicated that he believes that the European Human Rights Convention and our Human Rights Act should ONLY apply to '(human rights or democracy) activist or a refugee'.
I disagree strongly.
Oh and he's only been found guilty (in absentia) by a Jordanian court on the evidence obtained by torture of his co-accused. No other country, including the UK, seem to want to give him a fair trial...
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17-01-2012, 17:31
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
I would have to agree with ceedee on this .We cannot in all conscience deport him based on evidence obtained by torture and knowing that in all likelyhood he will be tortured again It is the same as condoning torture and since part of the reason for going to Iraq and Afghanistan was to rid the world of regimes that use torture ,it would make that a waste of time and lives .I can understand that people want this odious man out of our country but we cannot pick and choose what basic rights people have .
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17-01-2012, 17:37
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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<snip> since part of the reason for going to Iraq and Afghanistan was to rid the world of regimes that use torture ,it would make that a waste of time and lives <snip>
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I thought the US went to Iraq and Afghanistan to carry out torture that isn't allowed on their home soil?
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17-01-2012, 17:40
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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What kind of human rights declaration do you imagine would sanction 'exporting' suspects to countries widely recognised for systematic torture?
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Which version of human rights would sanction allowing a known terrorist to live in the country he hates and wants to harm ????
Send him home and let him ROT
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17-01-2012, 17:53
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
Send him to Guatanamo Bay and throw away the key, he would suit an orange jumpsuit and a hood will Metallica on full volume 24/7. 
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17-01-2012, 18:03
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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Send him to Guatanamo Bay and throw away the key, he would suit an orange jumpsuit and a hood will Metallica on full volume 24/7. |
Can I go 
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17-01-2012, 18:25
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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That is what I am saying!
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No, it wasn't - we can only read what you say, not try to guess what you thought you meant to say....
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17-01-2012, 18:33
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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If they have commited crimes in other countries (with the exception of democracy, human rights activists and perscuted people) why should we keep them here, Britain should not be a haven for rouges!
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It's OK, I doubt that Qatada is one for wearing make-up, although even if he did like to go around with a bit of blush on, I don't see what the problem is.
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17-01-2012, 18:50
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
Maybe with some manscara and guyliner....
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17-01-2012, 18:59
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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Which version of human rights would sanction allowing a known terrorist to live in the country he hates and wants to harm ???
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If Qatada is such a "known terrorist", I'd have expected the UK CPS, operating under the ECHR and HR Act, to have prosecuted him in the UK.
Evidently the combined forces of MI5 and MI6 cannot obtain the evidence to prove your allegation.
I'm a little surprised that there's not more speculation why no country (other than Jordan) have applied for his extradition to face (a fair) trial?
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17-01-2012, 20:13
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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I'm a little surprised that there's not more speculation why no country (other than Jordan) have applied for his extradition to face (a fair) trial?
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It simple, The free bank of England and the Liberal hand wringers are mug enough to look after him. why would anyone else want him and his baggage when the uk are so soft. We send young men to fight and die against **** like him and here we are the mugs of the world letting him stay here.
Again i say send him home and let him fester in hell
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17-01-2012, 20:17
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED
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let him fester in hell
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He is not coming to live with me
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