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Old 23-12-2016, 20:24   #1261
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we know it Mick ,it's you that seems confused .He doesn't want to update ,he wants to expand and strengthen .Do you really want to return to a full blown arms race ? because it seems Trump does
I don't and neither does he, he stated he'd prefer or wants a world without nukes as well, we all want a world without them.

But Trump has said the world needed to come to it's senses regarding nukes, he said it towards the end of the Tweet and he said it in the debates, but that is not going to happen, nor will he take them all away when potential enemies, like North Korea say they have capabilities to strike the US at any given moment.

As usual the Anti-Trump media/press is jumping on something he has said and making it look like there is a new Cold War on the horizon, the fact is, this is far from the case given Putin has laughed off such claims and still wants to get along with the US despite Trump's desires via his Twitter account today.

As for your claim, I am confused. No I am not confused. He does think they need an update, in the following debate, he discussed that their Nuclear capability WAS old and that previous Administrations have not been updating their nuclear capability.

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Cheer up Mick , it's Christmas. Make the most of it, it might be our last...
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Old 23-12-2016, 20:58   #1263
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Make the most of it, it might be our last
We may not be even having this Christmas, if she had won the Presidency, so you cheer up with that in mind and be cheerful next year as well, that's if you can get over Article 50 getting triggered and we make a sharp exit, as needed from that sorry hell hole known as the EU.
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I don't and neither does he, he stated he'd prefer or wants a world without nukes as well, we all want a world without them.

But Trump has said the world needed to come to it's senses regarding nukes, he said it towards the end of the Tweet and he said it in the debates, but that is not going to happen, nor will he take them all away when potential enemies, like North Korea say they have capabilities to strike the US at any given moment.

As usual the Anti-Trump media/press is jumping on something he has said and making it look like there is a new Cold War on the horizon, the fact is, this is far from the case given Putin has laughed off such claims and still wants to get along with the US despite Trump's desires via his Twitter account today.

As for your claim, I am confused. No I am not confused. He does think they need an update, in the following debate, he discussed that their Nuclear capability WAS old and that previous Administrations have not been updating their nuclear capability.
maybe that's because of what he said .He really can't keep saying stuff like "i want to increase our nuclear weapons" and "i want to build a wall to keep foreigners out" and not expect people to react .If he does increase Americas nuclear weapons stock as his *tweets* suggest he wants to then the rest of the world should put a stop to him

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They need to take his tweeting machine off him the idiot is a menace to the rest of the world
 
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maybe that's because of what he said .He really can't keep saying stuff like "i want to increase our nuclear weapons" and "i want to build a wall to keep foreigners out" and not expect people to react .If he does increase Americas nuclear weapons stock as his *tweets* suggest he wants to then the rest of the world should put a stop to him

*tweets*
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So what part of this tweet do you not understand?

"The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes."

This seems to me to be a guy who is quite rightly concerned about neuclear arms proliferation and wants the US to be at the forefront to be able to fend off any threat.
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Old 23-12-2016, 22:10   #1266
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maybe that's because of what he said .He really can't keep saying stuff like "i want to increase our nuclear weapons" and "i want to build a wall to keep foreigners out" and not expect people to react .If he does increase Americas nuclear weapons stock as his *tweets* suggest he wants to then the rest of the world should put a stop to him

*tweets*
They need to take his tweeting machine off him the idiot is a menace to the rest of the world
I don't see anything that he has said which makes him a menace. If it was suppose to spook Russia up, it did not, they laughed and agreed with him and besides, he said at the end of the tweet the world needs to come to it's senses regarding nukes, this to me suggests a peaceful approach would be preferred, that makes total sense to me and makes him far from a being a menace.

You see this is where you follow the gutter press and get it wrong like others, he is not wanting to build a wall to keep foreigners out, he wants to keep ILLEGAL immigrants out and that is the difference here, he is for immigrants but they must apply the legal way, wtf is wrong with that? Bloody nothing as far as I am concerned.

You say he should be stopped for wanting to build his nukes up, by rest of the world, I don't see anybody being brave enough to be stopping Russia at this current time, what makes you think they (rest of world), could stop Trump if he really wanted to do it ? Huh? - Don't you think that should be the same for Russia too, that rest of world should stop them building their nukes up, not that it would do any good, they been building them up for years with impunity ?

What about North Korea? Iran ? Don't see anyone bleating on that rest of the world needs to stop their Nukes program. The UN goes on and on with itself about every time North Korea, does a Nuclear Test, the UN 'condemns it in the strongest possible terms.' Blah blah, we hear it every time but nothing gets done about it and North Korea does it again and again.

You see, it seems to be a more of a case of, let's attack Trump, just because it's Trump and it's getting rather tedious listening to all the whinging and complaining about him, when if it had been her, we probably be experiencing a world apocalypse by now.
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They need to take his tweeting machine off him the idiot is a menace to the rest of the world
"A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons" Hillary Clinton on Donald Trump.
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"A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons" Hillary Clinton on Donald Trump.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7161621.html
He does seem a little thin skinned. Still I'm sure that will only be of massive benefit to his presidency
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He does seem a little thin skinned. Still I'm sure that will only be of massive benefit to his presidency
he's probably used to getting his own way all the time ,like most rich people

well that's my uninformed guess [i'll check out wackypedia that's always good for several million different answers to the same question]
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So what part of this tweet do you not understand?

"The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes."
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And which part of "greatly expand and strengthen its nuclear capability" do you not understand ,the man wants to increase Americas nuclear arsenal as if it's not big enough already .

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This seems to me to be a guy who is quite rightly concerned about neuclear arms proliferation and wants the US to be at the forefront to be able to fend off any threat
We've spent the last 30 odd years cutting back on nuclear weapons and Trump walks in and wants to undo everything that's been achieved because it's better for the world .
 
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In fairness Marty putin has been expanding Russia's nuclear arsenal both in terms of numbers and warhead yield culminating with the czar bomba a weapon the russians claim can take out a target the size of texas. The US has allowed it's arsenal to deteriorate over the last couple of decades and if trump hadn't done it clinton would have had too. A renewed arms race is not something any sane person wants but it looks like we are going to have it anyway.
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yes just let me know if there's anything else i can't help with

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he's probably used to getting his own way all the time ,like most rich people

well that's my uninformed guess [i'll check out wackypedia that's always good for several million different answers to the same question]
Another example of how he does business, wonder how long it takes for him to display such behaviour on the world stage

http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/27/scotti...trump-6218253/
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I don't see anything that he has said which makes him a menace. If it was suppose to spook Russia up, it did not, they laughed and agreed with him and besides, he said at the end of the tweet the world needs to come to it's senses regarding nukes,
I strongly suspect Putin is laughing at him and can't believe his luck in getting such an idiot in opposition to him

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this to me suggests a peaceful approach would be preferred, that makes total sense to me and makes him far from a being a menace.
So you actually think that increasing Americas nuclear arsenal is the peaceful approach ,you just answered the question of how can such a nutter got to be the most powerful man in the world .

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You see this is where you follow the gutter press and get it wrong like others, he is not wanting to build a wall to keep foreigners out, he wants to keep ILLEGAL immigrants out and that is the difference here, he is for immigrants but they must apply the legal way, wtf is wrong with that? Bloody nothing as far as I am concerned.
No Mick ,i don't follow any press at all ,i just listen to what comes out of that idiots gob .

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You say he should be stopped for wanting to build his nukes up, by rest of the world, I don't see anybody being brave enough to be stopping Russia at this current time, what makes you think they (rest of world), could stop Trump if he really wanted to do it ? Huh? - Don't you think that should be the same for Russia too, that rest of world should stop them building their nukes up, not that it would do any good, they been building them up for years with impunity ?

What about North Korea? Iran ? Don't see anyone bleating on that rest of the world needs to stop their Nukes program. The UN goes on and on with itself about every time North Korea, does a Nuclear Test, the UN 'condemns it in the strongest possible terms.' Blah blah, we hear it every time but nothing gets done about it and North Korea does it again and again.
These two paragraphs read like a statement from the 1960's trying to justify why countries need to build more nuclear weapons .Given Russia's current nuclear weapons systems any system that America has or wants to get will be ineffective anyway .Russia's missiles tend to be more blitz bombs designed to lay waste to entire continents ,they have dirty bombs designed to poison water for decades ,they are much more immoral and there is no defence to that ,as the rest of the western world realised years ago .

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You see, it seems to be a more of a case of, let's attack Trump, just because it's Trump and it's getting rather tedious listening to all the whinging and complaining about him, when if it had been her, we probably be experiencing a world apocalypse by now.
Have you actually read what your writing ?I am "whinging and whining" about Trump because of what he says ,what his views are and because i think the bloke is a menace to the rest of the world .....just exactly the same as you do about "crooked Hilary" .Just because you are of the opinion that the sun shines from Trumps backside don't expect the rest of the world to agree
 
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